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Re:Daily Stormer being dumped by GoDaddy, apparently seized ... by iknow44 on Monday August 14, 2017 @06:46AM (#15007735)
Freedom means freedom for anyone, including nazi, antifa, 4chan, voat.co and 8chan. We have to educated ourself to engage in discussion, i think when you look in internet bubbles/hugboxes. You don't talk to those people, you ignore or ban them like google did with 8chan or you can ridicule them calling them nazi or virgins/neckbeards. People won't allow any discussion and that will fuel rage, i mean real rage and can get real serious, because they felt like other people (normies) are enemy, that they can't even talk and they are censored by blant corporations using "hate speech"

I know another newly created account commenting.

Re:Daily Stormer being dumped by GoDaddy, apparently seized ... by stinos on Monday August 14, 2017 @06:50AM (#15007757)
Freedom means freedom for anyone, including nazi, antifa, 4chan, voat.co and 8chan

well sure, but doesn't freedom also mean you're allowed to select whether or not you want to host their websites?

Re:Daily Stormer being dumped by GoDaddy, apparently seized ... by falcolas on Monday August 14, 2017 @10:35AM (#15008829)
The entire internet infrastructure is controlled by private companies. Many of which are incorporated in the US.

If you hold to the belief that internet infrastructure companies should be free to censor anything and everything they want to, there is no such thing as free speech on the internet.

That future is not one I personally subscribe to; I believe in the basic human right to express one self, and as ubiquitous as the internet is as a means of communication, that means people must be free to express themselves on the internet.

Re:Daily Stormer being dumped by GoDaddy, apparently seized ... by stinos on Monday August 14, 2017 @02:48PM (#15011374)
that means people must be free to express themselves on the internet

If that expression of freedom happens to be not wanting to let certain others express their freedom via your infrastructure then there's a problem. Because there's 2 parties, each having the freedom to express themselves. By your saying A should let B express themselves, but that takes away freedom from A. Likewise I'm advocating that A should have the freedom to not let B express themselves even though, yes, that takes away freedom from B. So this is a tough one, because none of both solutions lets each party have full freedom. In such cases you need to look further. What I see here, is that B spreads hatred and as such, in my opinion, does way more damage to certain groups and humankind in general if you will than the damage done by A. So, since there must be a choice, I'd rather have some freedom taken away from B here.

Re:Daily Stormer being dumped by GoDaddy, apparently seized ... by iknow44 on Monday August 14, 2017 @07:02AM (#15007812)
sure, they can select, that's part of freedom. But if you are saying like google, duckduckgo, wikipedia, other "freedom sites" that you promote freedoom and free speech and then you just ban unpopular or sometimes wrong or nazi views, cutting the discussion and sometimes the chance to explain to other site your views/convince then you don't promote freedoom or free speech.
Re:Daily Stormer being dumped by GoDaddy, apparently seized ... by perpetualcrayon on Monday August 14, 2017 @07:10AM (#15007846)
What philosophical debate do you think you're going to have with a person who titles a blog post:

  Heather Heyer: Woman Killed in Road Rage Incident was a Fat, Childless 32-Year-Old Slut
What that guy needs is not acceptance. He needs a psychiatrist.
Re:Daily Stormer being dumped by GoDaddy, apparently seized ... by falcolas on Monday August 14, 2017 @10:28AM (#15008768)
Allowing and encouraging free speech does not imply agreement with the points of view being presented.