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Re:Google Doesn't Want What's Best for Us by barrkel on Sunday August 13, 2017 @05:23PM (#15005017)
If there is any difference in preferences, and thus career choice and thus depth and strength of candidate pool, between men and women - and there is strong evidence that there is along one relevant axis [1] - then a policy that tries to create a 50:50 balance by fiat will create sub-optimal outcomes if we're trying to optimize for hiring strong candidates. It may be optimal for equalizing gender ratios, but that may not be as important to company performance as hiring strong candidates.

Of course variance within groups is larger than variance between groups, so making discriminatory policy decisions based on group averages is deeply unfair and offensive. That doesn't mean that setting 50:50 gender representation targets in job roles wouldn't be sub-optimal for what appear to be biological reasons.

A lot of stuff in that memo I thought was very offensive - reasoning about specifics based on group attributes is a logical error in the same class as racism and antisemitism - but it's also not reasonable to say that everyone is equal, and thus the distribution of outcomes should reflect the distribution of the population. Everyone is not equal.

[1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/38061313_Men_and_Th...

Re:Google Doesn't Want What's Best for Us by kristianc on Sunday August 13, 2017 @05:30PM (#15005051)
> Last week, Google fired a software engineer for writing a memo that questioned the company’s gender diversity policies and made statements about women’s biological suitability for technical jobs.

The paragraph from NYT does not make any kind of normative "ought" claims at all about what is reasonable, it merely states that he was fired and this is what the memo said.

Re:Google Doesn't Want What's Best for Us by humanrebar on Sunday August 13, 2017 @05:47PM (#15005141)
If the author said "...fired a software engineer for writing a memo that questioned the company's gender diversity policies" full stop, I wouldn't have criticized the NYT here.

But what was written was not what the memo said. And Damore has been insistent that it wasn't his intention to say anything of the sort. It's what people have inferred about the memo, and the NYT author could have easily written "and made statements that can be fairly inferred to question female suitability for technical jobs". Or something pithier along those lines (I'm not a contributor to the Times).