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Re:YouTube AI deletes war crimes evidence as 'extremist mate... by CamperBob2 on Saturday August 12, 2017 @07:21PM (#15000603)
No way. I lived in China; I have seen how that story plays out.

It's naive to think that any one form of human organization, be it governmental or corporate, is somehow less corruptible than another. You're right to be on your guard against governmental abuses, but don't take your eye off the other balls in play.

History is littered with great companies toppled by better ideas and execution.

What we've seen lately are instances where one company topples another and proceeds to commit the same abuses, only more effectively and at wider scale. When Facebook replaced MySpace, were its users really that much better off? Which company had fewer rules and enforced fewer content guidelines? When one company dominates the market and locks it up with network effects, what incentive does that leave them to play well with others?

Re:YouTube AI deletes war crimes evidence as 'extremist mate... by thaumasiotes on Saturday August 12, 2017 @09:08PM (#15000960)
> It's naive to think that any one form of human organization, be it governmental or corporate, is somehow less corruptible than another.

You don't think any organizations have ever been any more corruptible than any other organizations?

Re:YouTube AI deletes war crimes evidence as 'extremist mate... by CamperBob2 on Saturday August 12, 2017 @09:24PM (#15001005)
Not once they reach a certain size, no. It turns into a pointless exercise in moral relativism. Joe brings up the Soviets, Jane counters with the East India Company. Bob rants about Trump, Betsy pulls up the Wikipedia article on Union Carbide. Sally complains about police brutality, Sam lectures her on the history of the Pinkerton Agency. Hank sticks up for the UAW, Mary criticizes the Teamsters.

None of these organizations should have been trusted implicitly to do the right thing for society at large. The burden of proof rests decisively with those who want us to believe that Google and Facebook are somehow different.

Re:YouTube AI deletes war crimes evidence as 'extremist mate... by PeanutCurry on Sunday August 13, 2017 @04:30AM (#15002091)
All of these organizations operated at their zeniths during different time periods, governments, cultural norms, and a variety of other factors. The problem with the conversation you're describing isn't moral relativism or that everyone in it has equally valid points, it's that none of them seem to be capable of isolating the elements of those organizations that functioned/dis-functioned without endorsing/criticizing the organization as a whole while still presenting a cogent argument.
Re:YouTube AI deletes war crimes evidence as 'extremist mate... by thaumasiotes on Saturday August 12, 2017 @10:35PM (#15001185)
We could save a lot of money and time by replacing the Supreme Court and Congress with one person each. Do you think there might be any disadvantages?