How I, a woman in tech, benefited from sexism in Silicon Valley

Re:How I, a woman in tech, benefited from sexism in Silicon ... by drewbuschhorn on Friday August 11, 2017 @08:34AM (#14988976)

So would you say that Damore is creating a victim identity for himself, or that he is an actual victim?

I can't imagine that you'd say "this company victimizes people for thoughts like mine," in front of the company, and then be surprised when exactly what you described seems to happen.

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Re:How I, a woman in tech, benefited from sexism in Silicon ... by js8 on Friday August 11, 2017 @11:06AM (#14990384)

> So would you say that Damore is creating a victim identity for himself, or that he is an actual victim?

Based on interviews I have seen with him, he feels as a victim, but isn't creating any "victim identity", because he (somewhat) rejects the notion that he is a part of some group.

At least that's how I think one can answer your (somewhat loaded, frankly) question about somebody without opening their brain. Creating "victim identity" requires that there is a social group that one associates with, because the whole point of doing so is to find allies.

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Re:How I, a woman in tech, benefited from sexism in Silicon ... by lern_too_spel on Friday August 11, 2017 @11:24AM (#14990594)

He has repeatedly identified himself with conservative thinkers, which he claims are victims.

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Re:How I, a woman in tech, benefited from sexism in Silicon ... by js8 on Friday August 11, 2017 @11:32AM (#14990676)

IIRC in the Bloomberg interview linked from the article, he explicitly rejects that he would identify with alt-right (that's because the interviewer asks about it), and explains that he is pretty much a centrist. He does claim though that conservatives are victims of bias in Google, but that doesn't mean he _identifies_ with them.

Kinda similar worldview to Jonathan Haidt, for example.

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Re:How I, a woman in tech, benefited from sexism in Silicon ... by lern_too_spel on Friday August 11, 2017 @11:56AM (#14990994)

He explicitly identified himself as a classical liberal in his essay, which most people today call libertarian. He feels that this group is a victim in the Valley, and he identifies as being part of this group.

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Re:How I, a woman in tech, benefited from sexism in Silicon ... by drewbuschhorn on Friday August 11, 2017 @12:32PM (#14991534)

If there's one thing this year has established, it's that we're all centrists, from the "create a white ethnostate" to "blackbloc anarchy forever" people.

Not that you could ever take people at their word for their beliefs and politics, but its seems especially disingenuous in this case.

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Re:How I, a woman in tech, benefited from sexism in Silicon ... by js8 on Friday August 11, 2017 @02:05PM (#14992614)

I disagree, I don't see any evidence that he is being dishonest.

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Re:How I, a woman in tech, benefited from sexism in Silicon ... by imartin2k on Friday August 11, 2017 @09:37AM (#14989492)

My point/observation is not so much about individual moments of feeling/being on the receiving end of discrimination, harrassment or "unfair" treatment, but about this being part/core of the identity.

I hope he will not adopt a victim identity although its sadly likely that this could happen, as this offers him more social currency and validation. Following the logic "better loved and championed by one tribe than by no one".

And who knows how it feels to be him right now. I have no idea.

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