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Re:Outraged about the Google diversity memo? by kgwgk on Thursday August 10, 2017 @05:53AM (#14978096)
> You cannot reduce the "gap" by aiming at the women who are already at Google. This should be obvious.

That is far from obvious. Everything else being equal, you would increase the proportion of women if you reduced their turnover.

Re:Outraged about the Google diversity memo? by irishsultan on Thursday August 10, 2017 @09:16AM (#14979292)
Only if you reduce their turnover to be below turnover for men. Which at first thought seems to be worse than discriminating only during the hiring phase.
Re:Outraged about the Google diversity memo? by mpweiher on Thursday August 10, 2017 @07:34AM (#14978617)
Can we agree that it is obvious as long as we're not talking about retention/turnover?

Well, maybe not "obvious", but "clear that it can't be any other way once you think about it".

Re:Outraged about the Google diversity memo? by kgwgk on Thursday August 10, 2017 @07:43AM (#14978685)
Sure, if you explicitly exclude any way that the "gap" could be reduced by aiming at the women who are already at Google it is clear that you can not reduce the "gap" by aiming at the women who are already at Google.