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Re:Jordan Peterson Interviews James Damore by lazyasciiart on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @08:04PM (#14974986)
Yes, Adria Richards can probably tell you about how this suppression of speech works. She was fired when the internet got angry that she publicly complained about a joke that she felt was offensive, and literally DDOSed her employer until they let her go.
Re:Jordan Peterson Interviews James Damore by anvandare on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @08:36PM (#14975199)
Correct, her publicly shaming someone (which caused that person to be fired) backfired spectacularly (and led to her being fired). That's what I meant by this sort of suppression having consequences of their own. No one won anything.
Re:Jordan Peterson Interviews James Damore by tnone on Thursday August 10, 2017 @12:20AM (#14976306)
You mean when she violated the code of conduct that she was claiming for herself, by engaging in harassing photography?

Disguising their attacks as a defense, and blowback as an attack is a staple of the progressive playbook by now. Once you tease apart actual cause and effect in these situations, the presupposed victim and oppressor labels tend to fall apart. Especially when one side gets uncritical media coverage across the board.

It didn't seem to prevent her from making a career out of her status as a victim either. Not so much for the person she got fired. Which makes it all the more unpalatable that this agenda is often pushed under the guise of accountability.

It's the first I've heard of the DDoS though. Got a source on that?

Re:Jordan Peterson Interviews James Damore by lazyasciiart on Friday August 11, 2017 @05:26PM (#14994456)
But aside from the sources - Damore was fired when he violated a code of conduct by complaining about diversity. Richards was fired when she violated a code of conduct by complaining about jokes that offended her. They are pretty analogous situations if you're capable of looking at them in the abstract. It turns out that mass internet outrage as coercion is a staple of pretty much everyone's playbook, and it is disingenous at best to recognize it only when it is done by people you disagree with.
Re:Jordan Peterson Interviews James Damore by tnone on Saturday August 12, 2017 @11:31AM (#14998222)
What is disingenuous is labeling a statement that starts with the words "I support diversity and inclusion" as being against diversity. Claiming he violated a code of conduct by doing so requires myopia of the highest degree.

Second, you are failing to distinguish between mass coercion by media based on lies, with a popular backlash based on an accurate account of the facts. Richards was in developer relations and made a giant stink when she demonstrated being unable to relate to developers.

Re:Jordan Peterson Interviews James Damore by lazyasciiart on Saturday August 12, 2017 @04:14PM (#14999734)
a) "I'm not disagreeing with you, but a careful examination of the facts seems to say that you're wrong". Can that statement be described as disagreeing with you or not?

b) Damore wrote the memo that caused the backlash, not the media.

Re:Jordan Peterson Interviews James Damore by lazyasciiart on Friday August 11, 2017 @01:13PM (#14992090)
yes, it was all over the discussion at the time and there's a ton of articles about it at https://www.google.com/search?q=adria+richards+ddos
Re:Jordan Peterson Interviews James Damore by cafard on Thursday August 10, 2017 @09:32AM (#14979424)
Adria Richards was employed as a "developer evangelist". Some evangelists are expected to tell the world around them to repent and be converted, it is true. But developer evangelists I don't think fit that job description.