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Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by jonbarker on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:15AM (#14969069)
In the industrial manufacturing based economy people could get good jobs without basic undergraduate 'skills'. Now in the knowledge economy, they can't.
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by kashkhan on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @08:12PM (#14975043)
yes, and that's why they should go to college and learn those skills.
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by jonbarker on Thursday August 10, 2017 @08:20AM (#14978880)
It used to be that community college was the place to go if you lacked the credentials to go straight into a 'real' college now that I think about it. Is this not the case any more?
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by kashkhan on Thursday August 10, 2017 @05:16PM (#14984364)
lack the credentials or money to pay.

'real' colleges offer better networking, but often great teachers can be found in community colleges, where profs are not selected primarily for research.

A minority of students learn better in competitive environments. Self motivated students learn better in constructive non competitive environments which are more like apprenticeships than competition for grades.