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Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by davidreiss on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @08:48AM (#14968084)
Saying college students should be able to pass remedial math and english tests isn't elitism.

If you can't pass a basic remedial test in basic math and basic english how are you going to take college level courses?

Where are you getting elitism from? Having some basic minimum standards isn't elitism. It's having standards.

Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by jonbarker on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:13AM (#14969045)
It's elitism when you realize being born into the wrong school district and/or with the wrong parents may increase your chances of not being able to acquire those basic skills.
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by tyywebb on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @12:18PM (#14970779)
What we should really do is drop all grading systems and test scores entirely. They are flat out bad for people's self esteem. So long as people show up to class sometimes they should get a special badge they can put on that says "I went to college!"
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by jonbarker on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @03:55PM (#14972960)
I honestly cannot tell if this comment is sarcastic. There are legitimate arguments for this approach as kids identify early with "bad at math" for example, and that sticks with them.
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by jonbarker on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:11PM (#14974631)
My comment above had two points for a while, then for some reason was voted down and now has zero points. So here's an appeal to authority: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/rich-kids-stay-rich-poo...