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Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by danieltillett on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @06:19AM (#14967134)
This is the only reason Harvard and Yale have any value. You could take the first year student intake at these institutions and distribute them randomly to other universities and the end result would be the same as letting the students study at Yale or Harvard.
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by mamon on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:04AM (#14967394)
No. If you distributed the students admitted to Harvard among other universities their education would be impaired by the fact that the professors would have to dumb down the material taught in their classes to their less bright colleagues. Not to mention that the professors themselves would not be as smart and accomplished as Harvard professors.
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by danieltillett on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:11AM (#14967429)
I think you are overestimating how much influence professors have (something I lament as a former professor). The high achieving students succeed despite anything their professors might have done or said.
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by VLM on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @09:14AM (#14968369)
"the professors would have to dumb down the material taught in their classes to their less bright colleagues."

A fascinating side effect of open courseware and online lecture videos is the elimination of that peculiar historical belief. For example, per video evidence, the kids in Professor Strang's linear algebra classes are definitely not observably smarter than the kids I met in my linear algebra class. There is a small measurable quantitative difference, but in practice there is no observable qualitative difference. The much maligned concept of human biological differences observationally do not extend to mere ivy-attendance.

Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by aianus on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @11:52AM (#14970477)
Counter-anecdote:

I passed University physics by watching MIT OpenCourseWare lectures and those kids learned in a week what took us three...

Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by metaphor on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @08:28AM (#14967897)
A distinct flavor of hubris arises from self-proclaimed brilliance being so easily impaired by a silver spoon that isn't quite as shiny.
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by greeneggs on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @09:10AM (#14968333)
Yet it is certainly true. More than the professors, I think the peer group matters in pushing students to their full potentials.
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by leereeves on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:01AM (#14968875)
It probably has more to do with the simple name of the university opening doors.

Investors and employers will give more to a Harvard grad than to an equally accomplished state-school grad.