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Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by yeukhon on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @12:39AM (#14965588)
But then the change contradicts your statment that the purpose "is to reduce the number of classes the students need to graduate" because if a student readiness for Math and English are low, then it doesn't make sense for them to move ahead.

I agree with your final point. I also believe if the current mandate is to ensure students are prepared for upper course load, then at least the entry to admission perhaps need to be increased? Or at least offer a free one-semester remdial class. If someone is not ready to do a "2x+3=6" then high school education failed to do its job and allowing the student going into a college knowing every college requires some math class to graduate (pre-calc, or as calculus+), only do more harm.

Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by kfriede on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @09:14AM (#14968374)
Exactly. And sticking them in a 101 level class when they really should be in remedial can end up having taking the same amount of time if that student now needs to take the class twice (or more) to pass.
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by jacalata on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @01:33PM (#14971585)
Except that they are now allowed to take other classes at the same time, which was previously disallowed.
Re:Cal State will no longer require math and English placeme... by yeukhon on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:07PM (#14974608)
Well, if those classes don't require the Math/English level they needed, then that makes sense.