Re:Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing to Fight a War fo...
by Sommersonn on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @12:37PM
(#14959581)
What "same lands" are you talking about? Poland had same rights as Bolsheviks to parts of Russian Empire.
If you don't know, Lenin proclaimed that Bolsheviks aren't successors to Tsarist Russia.
Re:Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing to Fight a War fo...
by vetinari on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @12:42PM
(#14959642)
East of Curzon line. You know, that agreement that was made after WW1 (and therefore after USSR was established) and broken by the 1920-war?
Re:Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing to Fight a War fo...
by Sommersonn on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @02:30PM
(#14960980)
Curzon line was suggested _during_ the war.
Besides, as I said - Poland had the same rights to these territories, so it was a fair game of whoever captured them first.
And if we're talking about broken agreements - Bolsheviks broke that agreement first.
Re:Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing to Fight a War fo...
by vetinari on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @04:46PM
(#14962486)
So basically you are saying that it was fair game for Poland to forcibly capture the territory, but when the USSR did the same, it's wrong and despicable?
Nice double standards.
Re:Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing to Fight a War fo...
by Sommersonn on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @04:55PM
(#14962613)
Where did I ever said anything about 'wrong and despicable'?
Re:Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing to Fight a War fo...
by vetinari on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @05:13PM
(#14962759)
Sorry, that wasn't you.
It is often used as an argument, that USSR invaded Poland (see above) and therefore they were literally Hitler.
What is forgetten is the B side of the coin, which is the content of this thread.
Re:Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing to Fight a War fo...
by Sommersonn on Thursday August 10, 2017 @10:09AM
(#14979821)
Yes, they're invaded Poland. And no, Poland didn't captured any USSR territories before that, so you can't justify that invasion.
Re:Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing to Fight a War fo...
by vetinari on Thursday August 10, 2017 @03:28PM
(#14983220)
> Poland didn't captured any USSR territories before that,
Keep telling yourself that. With a sufficient twist, you can rationalize anything!
Re:Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing to Fight a War fo...
by Sommersonn on Thursday August 10, 2017 @04:29PM
(#14983875)
Please do tell me when Poland captured USSR territories.
Re:Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing to Fight a War fo...
by Sommersonn on Friday August 11, 2017 @01:13PM
(#14992085)
Wonderful. This war ENDED in 1921, while USSR was created in 1922.
Please, check your facts better.
At the dawn of WW2, Poles weren't innocent bystander either. They happily tooks parts of Czechoslovakia.