Re:Google Employee's Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes 'Internal...
by fennecfoxen on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @05:44AM
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> Was there a thought even slightly in your mind that this was even mildly in tension?
Not in any practical sense, but that's a pretty low bar, isn't it? The point is that even your own comments are loaded with views about how
> Churches often operate businesses flagrantly in view of the community but nobody cares (education)
Look at the world-view implicit there. This is what I am pointing at. You seem to propose that a church doing things outside "be a place for crazy-people to gather" is something like fundamentally overstepping boundaries.
They have a parable for that. "You do not light a lamp, only to place it under a bushel basket."
> I cannot believe it when Christians talk about persecution in California inside their churches.
Imagine that you are working in California and hold what is an altogether-common Christian view: that "the legal vehicle of marriage should be offered only to man-woman couples with the general idea of founding a family."
Now imagine you donate, in secret, to a cause which supports that view (e.g. Proposition 8) — whilst being sensitive of the fact that many people would find this to imply that they are invalid as people, and so you make a point of not breathing a word of it, instead making it a special point in your daily life to treat any person who would be affected by this with respect. Suppose all of your colleagues and all those who interact with you will rush to your defence if you are accused of any impropriety in this regard.
There is a credible case that you should live in fear of being found out, being decried a hateful bigot in public forums, and losing your job. It has been amply demonstrated.
> Black churches in other areas work differently; worse... Will there be a Proposition 8 for Muslims?
The problems faced by black churches or Muslims may be more acutely serious in a variety of cases, and more serious overall as well, but of course this fails to justify any mistreatment of anyone.
Not in any practical sense, but that's a pretty low bar, isn't it? The point is that even your own comments are loaded with views about how
> Churches often operate businesses flagrantly in view of the community but nobody cares (education)
Look at the world-view implicit there. This is what I am pointing at. You seem to propose that a church doing things outside "be a place for crazy-people to gather" is something like fundamentally overstepping boundaries.
They have a parable for that. "You do not light a lamp, only to place it under a bushel basket."
> I cannot believe it when Christians talk about persecution in California inside their churches.
Imagine that you are working in California and hold what is an altogether-common Christian view: that "the legal vehicle of marriage should be offered only to man-woman couples with the general idea of founding a family."
Now imagine you donate, in secret, to a cause which supports that view (e.g. Proposition 8) — whilst being sensitive of the fact that many people would find this to imply that they are invalid as people, and so you make a point of not breathing a word of it, instead making it a special point in your daily life to treat any person who would be affected by this with respect. Suppose all of your colleagues and all those who interact with you will rush to your defence if you are accused of any impropriety in this regard.
There is a credible case that you should live in fear of being found out, being decried a hateful bigot in public forums, and losing your job. It has been amply demonstrated.
> Black churches in other areas work differently; worse... Will there be a Proposition 8 for Muslims?
The problems faced by black churches or Muslims may be more acutely serious in a variety of cases, and more serious overall as well, but of course this fails to justify any mistreatment of anyone.