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Re:Some insurers insist that patients forgo generics and buy... by tomohawk on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @04:50AM (#14955836)
Let's see. Under single payer system, it's illegal to purchase medicine or health care. Only the government can do it. The government does not get sick, and so is primarily focused on cutting cost. Government picks generic drug that works for most people and has no incentive to worry about the 5% - 10% of people it doesn't work for. Oh, well.

This is pretty much what we have now, except with an oligopoly instead of a monopoly. Not really seeing how going even more in the direction of a monopoly helps.

When people can make choices, thats when things change. People actually get sick, so paying for healthcare is more than just a cost, it can have a value as well.

At least with the current oligopoly system, there is a small amount of choice, and you can choose to purchase a drug on your own if what your insurer has on offer does not work or is more expensive. We should be going in the opposite direction - away from monopoly instead of towards it.

Instead of a single payer, we should have a single market.

Re:Some insurers insist that patients forgo generics and buy... by maxsilver on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @07:30AM (#14956658)
> Let's see. Under single payer system, it's illegal to purchase medicine or health care. Only the government can do it.

No, Nearly every single payer system allows you to purchase extra health care, over and beyond what the single payer system provides.

In Canada, as just one example, this is sometimes called "supplementary health insurance". See https://on.bluecross.ca/health-insurance/health-insurance-10... for an example

> Government picks generic drug that works for most people and has no incentive to worry about the 5% - 10% of people it doesn't work for. Oh, well

Generally, this isn't true either. Government picks generic drugs, because it frees up the most amount of money for them to treat other people with.

But if the government covers medications and there's a real medical reason to need a name brand drug over a generic, they'll usually prescribe you the name brand one automatically. Here's a list of that happening in the UK, for example - http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Medicinesinfo/Pages/Brandnamesa...

And of course, as always, your still welcome to buy any name brand drug yourself, if you like.

Re:Some insurers insist that patients forgo generics and buy... by al452 on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @05:22AM (#14955978)
"Under single payer system, it's illegal to purchase medicine or health care."

Total utter FUD. It's legal and normal in each of the 3 countries I've lived&worked in with a single-payer system. You seem very misled.

Re:Some insurers insist that patients forgo generics and buy... by Thlom on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @05:03AM (#14955896)
It's not illegal to purchase medicine or healthcare under most single payer systems.
Re:Some insurers insist that patients forgo generics and buy... by BeetleB on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @09:18AM (#14957485)
>Let's see. Under single payer system, it's illegal to purchase medicine or health care.

I stopped after reading this.

Re:Some insurers insist that patients forgo generics and buy... by alkonaut on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @07:33AM (#14956686)
How on earth would you outlaw purchasing healthcare? I hope these aren't widespread beliefs...
Re:Some insurers insist that patients forgo generics and buy... by throwawaymanbot on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @08:44AM (#14957200)
"Under single payer system, it's illegal to purchase medicine or health care." <2 mins of googling, can easily prove you wrong on this. I personally know from experience you are wrong.