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Re:Gnome is still the best Linux desktop environment by SmellyGeekBoy on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @04:28AM (#14955723)
Yet another "holy war" in which we're expected to pick sides and defend our decisions to the death. The reason there are so many different DEs for Linux is because people have such different preferences. The choice is a good thing. Why try to turn it into yet another excuse to start an argument?
Re:Gnome is still the best Linux desktop environment by bittermang on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @04:33AM (#14955753)
Because KDE is the Holy Grail, and all non-believers must perish at the end of that sword.

But in all honesty, I use KDE Plasma with a healthy mix of Gnome apps, because I can't stand Kmail and others.

Re:Gnome is still the best Linux desktop environment by keganunderwood on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @04:50AM (#14955834)
I like KDE neon because it comes without too much baggage. If you have 8GB+ RAM, you should give it a try on a live USB. You can install software using apt, use it, and discard it by just rebooting.

Edit: try the dev stable.

Re:Gnome is still the best Linux desktop environment by bittermang on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @06:25AM (#14956283)
Thanks for the tip. I'll check out Neon.

I was really liking Cinnamon, but I don't know. Something just felt incomplete, and I was having odd issues that seemed to be exclusive to running Cinnamon. I switched to Plasma, and have really liked it, very much, a lot so far.

Re:Gnome is still the best Linux desktop environment by jcelerier on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @05:13AM (#14955940)
> If you have 8GB+ RAM,

or even if you have 4 or 2. Plasma itself uses roughly 300 megabytes of RAM.

Re:Gnome is still the best Linux desktop environment by keganunderwood on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @05:19AM (#14955965)
Absolutely. I'm using a Lenovo t61 thinkpad with 1GB RAM. However, the live USB shines if you have more. You can install anything like the latest node js from their own Ubuntu without committing to anything. You'll run out of space if you don't have much RAM.
Re:Gnome is still the best Linux desktop environment by bittermang on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @06:23AM (#14956274)
200 currently. But I have 16gb. And I like how it looks and works. Jiggily windows when I move them. A centering crosshair when moving windows. The way they'll shuffle behind and in front of each other with a cute and quick animation when changing focus. All plugins you can choose to use or not, and even tweak.

And to "SmellyGeekBoy"s point: that's the thing that makes Linux so Linux-y. I can choose that. Or not. Or a raw command line only. Or have Plasma, Neon, Gnome, Cinnamon, LXDE, Lubuntu Next, and XFCE all installed AT THE SAME TIME. It's what you want. It's what you like. It's YOUR machine. Your desktop environment. You choose and tweak the one that suits you. No one should be able to hate or discriminate against that, it's not their desktop. So fuck'em.

Re:Gnome is still the best Linux desktop environment by hd4 on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @11:05AM (#14958523)
Did you need to make any changes to get it to 200mb? If I can get it to that point, I would switch from Ubuntu. (Ubuntu takes about 750mb~ starting)

Every time I've tried KDE recently, the starting RAM usage is closer to 800-900mb and it anecdotally felt laggier than Unity. (I tried KDE Neon)

Re:Gnome is still the best Linux desktop environment by bittermang on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @07:13PM (#14963882)
Not that I'm aware of. I'll typically start with Ubuntu Server and add a DE to it, but this time I did a clean Kubuntu install. I'm looking at my resource monitor right now and it's been sitting around 200 all day for Plasma. Perhaps if you add up all the rest of the KDE background services like KDE Connect, klauncher, etc, you'll have a grand total above 300. But I have the hardware, so I don't mind.
Re:Gnome is still the best Linux desktop environment by vkrm on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @04:35AM (#14955767)
Yup, pretty pointless article IMO. Doesn't even provide any actually good reasons why "Gnome is teh best". I'm sure there are probably a few reasons why Gnome is better than <something> for some set of users, this article just fails to list any of them.
Re:Gnome is still the best Linux desktop environment by digi_owl on Friday August 11, 2017 @01:50PM (#14992480)
And then you have a prominent Fedora dev and a prominent Gnome dev shouting a big NO to the claim of choice...