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Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by Kluny on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:05AM (#14955193)
> The worst anyone can say about his "screed" (give me a break) is that the guy was wrong and suffers from unconscious biases. Otherwise he was fairly civil and for this he is publicly and viciously crucified and demonized then thrown under a bus by Google.

100% agree. So much of the commentary on it reads like the writer either didn't read the memo or willfully misunderstood it. I don't agree with the memo either, but holy shit, people's reactions are so over the top.

Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by boyce on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:27AM (#14955332)
I don't think the worst is his being wrong and biased but that rather than discuss his concerns in a sensible way (i.e. quietly and with someone in a position to set him right on the diversity issue) he has caused a shitstorm by making this document so widely available.

Perhaps it's a failing of culture at Google that he didn't have a better way to express his concerns and have them addressed.

Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by DavidSJ on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @04:02AM (#14955530)
Sharing posts company-wide is an extremely common mechanism employed at Google to influence company direction over all sorts of technical and organizational matters. It seems wrong to single out the author of this memo for employing a tool widely accepted by the company culture as one appropriate for participating in a dialogue.
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by boyce on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @05:26AM (#14955997)
I think I did the opposite? Pretty sure I blamed the corporate culture for him not having a better way to express himself without causing this problem.
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by Kluny on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:31AM (#14955371)
I'm willing to bet there was a better way to do it. He probably just got impatient that he wasn't getting quick enough response, or the response he wanted, through those channels. Anyway, doing something that makes the company look so bad on such a scale as this would be grounds for firing no matter what it was about.
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by dvfjsdhgfv on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:36AM (#14955404)
What really makes Google "bad on such a scale" is actually firing the guy and thereby confirming his "echo chamber" point.
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by Kluny on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:40AM (#14955418)
Would you want that guy on your team? I wouldn't.
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by dvfjsdhgfv on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:47AM (#14955461)
You might not realize but you might already have several similar people on your team, but you'll never know as it's now officially forbidden to even express one's opinion on these matters.
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by chvid on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:56AM (#14955504)
I have been on teams with people having opinions like "that guy" plus some people being vegan communist yoga teachers. And we have been able to get along just fine.

That is how it is and how it has to be in a big company.

Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by peoplewindow on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @08:43AM (#14957194)
Sure.

He challenges unsupportable mental hangups with data and reason. Fuck yes I'd hire him (and if he lived in a different part of the world I could, because I am a hiring manager for a software engineering team at the moment).