Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by syshum on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:49PM (#14953532)

No, this is one of the problems we have in society today is this misunderstanding of Freedom of Speech

Freedom of speech is the right to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship, or societal sanction

Not just from government censorship, but from SOCIETY censorship as well

Governments, at least Western Government, are a reflection of society in general often delayed by a generation or so. As such if society deems fit to Censor something often that translates into the government censoring the same thing just a few year later.

We must be always mindful of threats to free speech not just from government but from society at large.

It is incumbent upon everyone to respect everyone else's freedom of expression, individually

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Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by meddlepal on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @12:48AM (#14954437)

FoS so far as the U.S. Constitution defines it has nothing to do with society. It's all about government.

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Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by syshum on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @05:28AM (#14956005)

I fail to understand what the US Constitution has to do with this conversation.

The US Constitution is a document that outlines what powers the people of the US have granted to the Federal government, it has no bearing on what I am talking about

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Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by meddlepal on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @06:58AM (#14956475)

Uh... Amendment #1 deals with FoS. Sentences 2 and 3 of your post talk about Government AND Society. The first amendment doesn't give a rat's ass about what society thinks. Its a restriction only on the government.

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Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by sbmassey on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @11:14AM (#14958649)

You are the one that brought up the US constitution, the OP was talking about freedom of speech as a principle. It is hardly surprising that the US constitution would only apply FoS to the government, since that is what it is trying to define, but the principle of FoS can apply to society as much as anything else.

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Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by xorfish on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @10:58AM (#14958438)

Freedom of Speech is a principle. It has a value on it's own. I wish more people would see that.

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Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by drewbuschhorn on Monday August 07, 2017 @11:32PM (#14953878)

Who's tradition are you using for that society argument?

It sounds like a facile reading of Mills, without ever going to the back half where he talks about valid reasons for a society to put pressure on an individual, but I've been more on the Federalist papers this year for obvious reasons.

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