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Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by syshum on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:24PM (#14953271)
Honestly I think this more Authoritarian / Libertarian than Right / Left.

I personally am Left, Libertarian Left.

I disagree with many of the assertions in the memo, however I do not believe he should have been fired.

Most of the drum beating from SJW's and Diversity Police are from an Authoritarian World view, where tolerance of views they disagree with is not allowed, can not be openly discussed, and should be suppressed by any means necessary

We need to expand the conversation beyond Left / Right, to include what is means to be Authoritarian, or Libertarian

Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by PKop on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:29PM (#14953320)
Fair enough, and I appreciate that point of view.

But, and this is important: you don't have any power.

People that are tolerant and acceptable are not the vocal minority. And those in power either agree with the SJW vocal minority, or they are afraid to oppose them.

So what I said above still stands unless their is some concerted effort to change these types of policies and expectations that result in what happened in this scenario.

Now, most people wont write a company wide memo outlining their "controversial" views because they have too strong of a self-preservation instinct.

What I'm pointing out is... are people going to get sick of holding back, keeping their thoughts to themselves, lying so as to avoid judgement. I bet there's a massive amount of readers just on this site that completely disagree with the outcome in this instance.

But they are irrelevant. Because nobody will do anything about it, and the next person to speak up will get fired also. So... nice tolerant open-minded liberals have no power in the face of motivated passionate regressive SJW liberals.

Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by syshum on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:36PM (#14953388)
I understand all of that, but you put it in the context of Center/Right persons forming groups and finding employment with Center/Right Organizations

I do not see where that solves the discourse problem, all you end up with is a bunch of Authoritiarna Right companies in a Right Echo Chamber and a bunch of Authoritarian Left companies in a left Echo Chamber

The solution is to get back to promoting true free expression and the idea that "I disagree with what you have to say, but respect you for saying it"

Free Speech is under massive assault, but not from government but from societal sanction which is just as bad and just as dangerous

Societal sanction has a habit of becoming Government Censorship in short order

Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by PKop on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:44PM (#14953467)
That would take initiative from "the other side".

That won't happen. Because if company leadership, or basically just a group of employees within some company argued for "tolerance" of thought... for example with this Google employee, those individuals would be tarred and feathered just the same.

Does it look like SJW tech industry employees want to discuss and debate ideas?.....

https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/894741252977119232

Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by syshum on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:54PM (#14953581)
No they dont, which is one of the reason I work in Tech well outside of Silicon Valley... and have no intention of ever working in Silicon Valley. I would rather live under a bridge than work in that region...