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Re:The Dutch Have Solutions to Rising Seas by coldtea on Monday August 07, 2017 @09:40AM (#14947336)
>It's a good read but... I don't see the whole point about "From a Dutch mind-set, climate change is not a hypothetical or a drag on the economy, " is a bit weird. Climate doesn't matter here. 1/3rd of the country is already under sea level TODAY. The billions we spend on engineering and developing water defense structures have no relation to our believes about climate change. We are ALREADY beneath sea level!

It's quite simple.

The argument is not that the Dutch believe more on climate change because they have already dealt with it in the past.

Rather it is that for the Dutch the climate change is not a hypothetical, but a very real danger, being as they are already under sea level, that they are more inclined to believe in it and see precautions taken against it as necessary and not as a "drag on the economy".

Re:The Dutch Have Solutions to Rising Seas by askmike on Monday August 07, 2017 @09:50AM (#14947402)
I think he means the Dutch mindset is more: We don't care whether climate change is happening or not* . We are already below sea level and have been building solutions for our situation for decades. We are not "living" climate change already, we are living in a country below sea level.

*We (I am also Dutch) might care about climate change, but that is independent of this infrastructure we already need anyway. Why is this article talking about what we think about climate change only to go into the infrastructure we need regardless of climate change. Article is great but the title is way too clickbait, the content of this article are unrelated of what the Dutch think about climate change..

Re:The Dutch Have Solutions to Rising Seas by coldtea on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:45AM (#14947812)
>Why is this article talking about what we think about climate change only to go into the infrastructure we need regardless of climate change.

Because the infrastructure you "need regardless of climate change" is needed because of reasons that make your country much more sensitive to ocean levels rising from climate change.

As thus, the (not related to climate change) need for such infrastructure that you had, makes climate change all the more real and dangerous for you than for someone in Montana.

It's like a driver with unstable breaking mechanism in their car (due to it having sustained some previous damage) is much more sensitive to the alert of a snow storm coming.

Not because it was some prior snow storm that caused their issue, but because their issue makes it much more dangerous to drive on a snowy road.