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Re:The Louisiana Environmental Apocalypse Road Trip by epistasis on Sunday August 06, 2017 @02:01PM (#14942480)
If we're purely focused on economics, without any moral judegements or other human values inserted, then the answer is the typical answer for negative externalities. The companies that are exerting economic losses on others via pollution and loss of use of land and loss of health, etc. must pay for those losses in order for a free market to properly price the economic benefit of producing those chemicals. When local politicians say that they're not going to do that in order to attract these businesses, they are explicitly optimizing for worse economic outcomes.

Of course, taking a purely economic view is fairly cold and uncaring. The other issues should also be at play. But I don't think they offer anything more generous to these companies

Re:The Louisiana Environmental Apocalypse Road Trip by narrator on Sunday August 06, 2017 @02:20PM (#14942588)
So given that we have to make chemicals somewhere, how do we minimize the externalities? Locate the plant somewhere where nobody lives, and downwind from the plant are hundreds of miles of ocean where nobody lives, etc. This is probably where they would be naturally located if plant owners had to pay for externalities.
Re:The Louisiana Environmental Apocalypse Road Trip by maxxxxx on Sunday August 06, 2017 @03:12PM (#14942916)
If plant owners had to pay for externalities they would make sure the plant doesn't release pollution.
Re:The Louisiana Environmental Apocalypse Road Trip by narrator on Sunday August 06, 2017 @03:51PM (#14943105)
Does money really solve all problems though? This is what is a bit naive about economics. Would people living downwind from the plant be ok with getting XX million dollars if they had to die early from cancer and miss out on 40 years of their lives? Why not move the plant somewhere where it's not getting anybody sick instead of trying to solve all problems with giving victims money. Money is not the universal and only solution to all problems.
Re:The Louisiana Environmental Apocalypse Road Trip by epistasis on Sunday August 06, 2017 @04:01PM (#14943171)
Money's not a universal solution. But in this particular case it would help. If re plant owners had to pay for the damage they inflicted on those around them, then given a choice between a site where they had to pay because people were there and a site where they did not have to pay because people were not there, what would they choose?

Also, enforcing economic solutions does not necessarily prevent adding other non economic solutions. For an economic activity, such as production of these chemicals, economic solutions can go a really really long way to bettering behavior.

Re:The Louisiana Environmental Apocalypse Road Trip by maxxxxx on Sunday August 06, 2017 @04:46PM (#14943415)
i think the point is that the plant would become prohibitively expensive so the economical and profitable thing would be to produce in a cleaner way.

Unfortunately the other option is to move the plant to the third world and kill poor people who can't afford to fight back.