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Re:Startups should run on cloud providers by hardwaresofton on Friday August 04, 2017 @12:05PM (#14929701)
Hey would you mind pointing to where you've seen prices like those? So far the best dedicated servers (VPSes) I've seen have specs like:

4 cores 8GB RAM 160TB disk

for ~$36/mo.

Here are the places I'm talking about: INIZ (iniz.com) (I currently use them, but they don't have the bes tprice)

https://cc.delimiter.com/cart/dedicatedcore-vps/

https://www.delimiter.com/

The last two I am thinking of switching to soon.

Re:Startups should run on cloud providers by Veratyr on Friday August 04, 2017 @12:35PM (#14929886)
VPS are not dedicated servers. A dedicated server is a physical hunk of metal for your sole use. You get the entire machine, not a slice of one. A VPS is a regular virtual machine in KVM or Xen or something like that.

OVH's SoYouStart has 4c/8t (Xeon E5-1620v2) + 16GB DDR3 ECC + 2x2TB HDD and unmetered 250Mbps bandwidth for $34.99/mo: https://www.soyoustart.com/us/essential-servers/ (and there are a bunch of other options if you're wiling to go to $42).

Online.net has a Xeon D-1531 (6c/12t) + 32GB DDR4 ECC + 2x250GB SSD and unmetered 300Mbps bandwidth for 29.99 EUR/mo: https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-classic (and again, more options slightly higher)

Hetzner's serverbidding has a Xeon E3-1245v2 + 16GB DDR3 ECC + 2x3TB HDD and unmetered gigabit for 33.61 EUR/mo: https://robot.your-server.de/order/market

There are other options around too, these are just the big, well known ones.

Re:Startups should run on cloud providers by hardwaresofton on Friday August 04, 2017 @12:44PM (#14929949)
Wow, thanks for the info, I thought you might have meant an actual physical server but you didn't mention rackspace rentals or bandwidth costs or whatever so I figured you must have meant VPS. I thought you were suggesting renting a physical machine and then putting it in a data center myself...

I had no idea renting entire dedicated servers was so cheap (and came with all those other things as well) -- makes me wonder why VPS is even a thing since if you go the KVM route you have to set up everything yourself anyway... What am I missing?

Re:Startups should run on cloud providers by Veratyr on Friday August 04, 2017 @01:16PM (#14930197)
> I thought you were suggesting renting a physical machine and then putting it in a data center myself...

That's an odd kind of colocation. Typically you'd buy a machine outright, colocate it and maybe sell it when you're done.

> makes me wonder why VPS is even a thing since if you go the KVM route you have to set up everything yourself anyway... What am I missing?

VPS are much smaller and are typically used by people buying on the very low end of the market, people who won't pay $40/mo for a server. They're also much easier to find in places like the US. There aren't many budget dedicated server providers in the US like there are in Europe.

Typically cost efficiency looks something like this: owning DC < colocation < dedicated server < VPS < Cloud

But also, the speed and ease with which you can change your infrastructure looks something like this: Cloud > VPS > dedicated server > colocation > owning DC. There's a tradeoff to be made.

Re:Startups should run on cloud providers by orf on Friday August 04, 2017 @04:00PM (#14931673)
Hetzner is my provider of choice. They are based in Germany (something I didn't consider when posting this), and their dedicated server costs are ridiculously cheap to the point of absurdity when compared to other providers.
Re:Startups should run on cloud providers by mrgreenfur on Friday August 04, 2017 @12:07PM (#14929717)
OVH has 2 core, 32gb ram public cloud instances for $40/month
Re:Startups should run on cloud providers by ukd1 on Friday August 04, 2017 @12:08PM (#14929725)
hetzner.de robot auctions
Re:Startups should run on cloud providers by joshstrange on Friday August 04, 2017 @12:24PM (#14929827)
This. I have one from here [0] and love it ($30/mo)

Intel Core i7-2600 2x3TB HD 16GB DDR3

Right now for $40/mo you could get: Intel Core i7-4770 2x240GB SSD 32GB DDR3

[0] https://robot.your-server.de/order/market

Edit: Just a note with my server and I expect most if they have 2 hard drives you have the option of running in RAID1 or Raw (Maybe RAID0 was an option but I can't remember)

Re:Startups should run on cloud providers by hardwaresofton on Friday August 04, 2017 @01:07PM (#14930115)
Just found my own :) thanks!