Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by whatrusmoking on Thursday August 03, 2017 @01:38PM
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??? Google's been doing this at scale for a while.
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Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by gwern on Thursday August 03, 2017 @01:46PM
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Google switched Google Translate over just last year, November 2016. Considering Facebook is developing all this internally and the scale they operate at and the presumable hardware disadvantages (does FB have any equivalent of Google's TPUs?), switching over in production so quickly is impressive.
Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by kuschku on Thursday August 03, 2017 @03:05PM
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Only for very few language pairs, though. But for those translation massively improved, especially for German the old solution was basically unusable.
Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by dmcy22 on Thursday August 03, 2017 @01:54PM
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Google only supports Neural Machine Translation for a subset of languages. Whereas as Facebook is doing it for 2,000 translation directions.
Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by Retric on Thursday August 03, 2017 @02:01PM
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45 languages * 44 other langues ~= 2000 translation directions. There are ~4,500 languages with more than 1,000 speakers ~4,500 * 4,499 ~= 20,254,500 language pairs so that's a very long way from every language.
Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by hood_syntax on Thursday August 03, 2017 @02:25PM
(#14922277)
Frankly though, I imagine the vast majority of those languages are unappealing targets in terms of return on investment.
Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by flamedoge on Friday August 04, 2017 @03:28AM
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and much smaller training data..
Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by actuator on Thursday August 03, 2017 @03:24PM
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I guess they really don't need to cover all of them though as most of the people speaking a language with low number of speakers would be able to converse in other mainstream languages as well. I can speak four languages but I rarely converse in two of them as speakers of the two languages are usually comfortable with a mainstream language as well.
Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by rjeli on Friday August 04, 2017 @03:43AM
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The most obvious thing to me is to use an intermediate language - I assume this has already been discussed extensively, anyone have references?
edit: I should have scrolled down https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/22/googles-ai-translation-too...
Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by jacquesm on Thursday August 03, 2017 @08:53PM
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Even Swedish is barely in the top 100 with 8.7 million speakers.
Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by riku_iki on Thursday August 03, 2017 @06:08PM
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Google may also have higher bar for translation quality..
Re:Transitioning entirely to neural machine translation
by zitterbewegung on Thursday August 03, 2017 @01:53PM
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Google was doing a statistical method of translation for a long time for Google Translate. Last year they switched over to Neural Machine Translation.