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Re:PET scans show many Alzheimer’s patients may not actually... by trimble on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @08:51PM (#14916075)
Pet scan: $3000 - $4000 Peanut butter: $3 - $10

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3823377/pdf/nih...

Re:PET scans show many Alzheimer’s patients may not actually... by andreasley on Thursday August 03, 2017 @04:46AM (#14917959)
A study from 2014 could not replicate this:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4167392/pdf/nih...

Re:PET scans show many Alzheimer’s patients may not actually... by miguelrochefort on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @09:28PM (#14916234)
> Methods: Participants with probable AD (N=18), mild cognitive impairment (MCI, N=24), other causes of dementia (OD, N=26) and matched controls (OC, N=26) were tested, with closed eyes, for their ability to detect an odor, one nostril at a time. A container of 14g of peanut butter was opened, held medially at the bottom of a 30 cm ruler, and moved up 1cm at a time during the participants’ exhale. Upon odor detection, the distance between the subject’s nostril and container was measured.

> Results: The mean odor detection distance of AD patients’ left nostril (5.1 cm), and not their right (17.4 cm), was significantly less (F(3,90) = 22.28, p < 0.0001) than the other groups. The mean, standard error, and 95% Confidence Interval of the L R nostril odor detection difference (cm) for AD was −12.4 ±0.5, (−15.0, −9.8); for MCI was −1.9 ±1.2, (−4.2,0.4); for OD was 4.8 ±1.0, (2.6,6.9); and for OC was 0.0 ±1.4 (−2.2,2.1).

Re:PET scans show many Alzheimer’s patients may not actually... by AstralStorm on Thursday August 03, 2017 @02:36AM (#14917419)
Tiny pilot study. Where are odds ratios? Where are the multiple measurements per patient?
Re:PET scans show many Alzheimer’s patients may not actually... by Broken_Hippo on Thursday August 03, 2017 @04:52AM (#14917986)
Great.

But we'll also have machines that measure out the dosages. And possibly a few controls. Plus we'll have to adjust for folks that have an exceptional sense of smell. And come to think about it, we'll need to make sure we have baseline sensitivity levels at different ages to base the test result on. We'll have to account for folks that have sensitive sense of smells, which could be a large problem for controls. Not only that, but we'll need to check for signs of a stroke and the many other things that can cause one to lose one's sense of smell.

On second thought, I'm much more likely to support the more expensive test and hope they invent a simple blood test as it seems to narrow things down further.

Re:PET scans show many Alzheimer’s patients may not actually... by marcosdumay on Thursday August 03, 2017 @12:38PM (#14921097)
We would also have to take into account simple cases of the flu or a cold.

Yet, as long as the errors are overwhelming at the false positive side, it can be used to reduce the number of the more expensive test.

Re:PET scans show many Alzheimer’s patients may not actually... by trendia on Thursday August 03, 2017 @01:29AM (#14917151)
Peanut butter is even cheaper than that -- 10 people can smell the same peanut butter but they can't fit in the same Pet scanner.
Re:PET scans show many Alzheimer’s patients may not actually... by NIL8 on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @11:11PM (#14916683)
What..I can't... I am speechless.
Re:PET scans show many Alzheimer’s patients may not actually... by zkms on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @11:06PM (#14916657)
How is this test methodology affected by phenomena like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_cycle
Re:PET scans show many Alzheimer’s patients may not actually... by 0xbear on Thursday August 03, 2017 @04:15AM (#14917857)
That's just the initial bill. I bet insurance gets this down to no more than a few hundred bucks, same as with MRI.