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Re:When all job differences are accounted for, the pay gap a... by darawk on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @04:44PM (#14914449)
I disagree. Women have the same opportunity to negotiate that men do. The fact that they choose to negotiate less is on them.
Re:When all job differences are accounted for, the pay gap a... by mrkurt on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @04:48PM (#14914489)
Do you agree that negotiation skills don't matter for most jobs? And do you agree that people should be compensated based on the value they bring to a job?

Because sexism or no, I think it's a tremendous problem when people get ahead for completely tangential reasons to their job performance and skills.

Re:When all job differences are accounted for, the pay gap a... by darawk on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @05:35PM (#14914874)
I agree it's a problem. But it's women's problem. If they want to get ahead - start negotiating. It's not incumbent upon society to bend over backwards to facilitate every subgroup's predilections. Salary negotiation is a necessary part of the job market. It performs a useful and important function - price discovery. It is not sexist if women are maladapted to it.
Re:When all job differences are accounted for, the pay gap a... by hnnsj on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @05:16PM (#14914733)
How is it sexism is sex is not a factor?
Re:When all job differences are accounted for, the pay gap a... by mrkurt on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @05:30PM (#14914839)
It is a factor.
Re:When all job differences are accounted for, the pay gap a... by hnnsj on Thursday August 10, 2017 @04:41AM (#14977677)
In that case I'm missing your point. If everyone has equal opportunity to negotiate salary regardless of sex, then how does it matter whether or not salary negotiation skills should be awarded, from a gender equality perspective? Isn't that a separate issue then, not related to sexism?

Unless your point is that the sexism is at a larger cultural level that fosters the average woman to be less effective at salary negotiations. In that case I completely agree.