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Re:When all job differences are accounted for, the pay gap a... by darawk on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @04:43PM (#14914430)
No, it isn't. The world doesn't need to be designed to produce equality of outcome. Just equality of opportunity. Women may choose to negotiate less, and that's fine. They'll get paid less. If women want to choose to negotiate more, they can do that too, and be paid more.

If you want to argue that it's sexist that we socialize women to negotiate less, i'm all for that, though.

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Re:When all job differences are accounted for, the pay gap a... by johnfn on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @04:53PM (#14914537)
> If you want to argue that it's sexist that we socialize women to negotiate less, i'm all for that, though.

If that's the road you feel comfortable walking down, I think it's fine to compromise at that point. Regardless of how it happened, the result - women not negotiating - is still the same.

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Re:When all job differences are accounted for, the pay gap a... by darawk on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @06:09PM (#14915142)
Yes, but how you get there matters. If society is socializing women to negotiate less, that's society's fault and society should try to correct that. If women are simply biologically predisposed to negotiate less, that's nobody's fault and women can try to correct it if they want, or not. But it's not a social, collective problem.
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