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Re:Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says by bogomipz on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @11:44AM (#14911446)
>"Waves of people inexperienced, untrained in shuttling people around a major metro have resulted in downtown Chicago being an utter mess compared to only a few years ago."

Has the city published any traffic impact studies? NYC showed concerned for Uber impact on traffic and made an attempt to get data and it turned into a political kerfuffle with accusations of protecting the taxi industry etc. I don't like the title of this blog post but it points to similar of what you are stating about downtown Chicago:

http://nyc.streetsblog.org/2017/02/27/its-settled-uber-is-ma...

Re:Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says by bbarn on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @11:56AM (#14911563)
I think it'd be hard to actually quantify the impact. Chicago's also constantly under construction, the downtown area has had major bus route redesigns with the "JUMP" routes, and that's caused a lot of congestion too.

I'm not really familiar with new york's streets, but ours have been over capacity forever and now with uber/lyft there's a lot more single passenger car traffic in the business areas. Much more so than cabs, because getting them is much more convenient than cabs ever were here - calling a cab in chicago is a joke, honestly, and if you weren't in an area they pass by frequently you were out of luck. I feel like more people choose the uber option for short trips that would have been transit in the past. The convenience of it is the model, after all.

Re:Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says by bogomipz on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @12:44PM (#14912150)
>"I think it'd be hard to actually quantify the impact."

You would need Uber/Lyft's help I believe. But I think if you combined the Uber/Lyft data with data that the DOT keeps it would be pretty easy to quantify the impact. I think that was NYC's point as well. But unfortunately the mayor had received money from a taxi lobbying effort which allowed Uber to cry foul and make accusations of protectionism.[1]

One metric used is average travel speed which according to this recent article is down 12% to 8.1 miles compared to 2010[2]

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/18/nyregion/de-blasio-reaps-b...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/nyregion/uber-ride-hailin...

Re:Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says by emodendroket on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @04:21PM (#14914231)
Well... what incentive do they have to hand it over?
Re:Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says by bogomipz on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @09:09PM (#14916164)
I would think the incentive would be to play nice with the city and the TLC that regulates the industry. I think they will have to do so eventually anyway.
Re:Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says by emodendroket on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @10:15PM (#14916440)
Yeah but if it's not flattering that might not be worth it.