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Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by toomuchtodo on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @05:14PM (#14905409)
Google "solar pv eroei". We are past the point of positive energy return.
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Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by elsonrodriguez on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @06:00PM (#14905785)
Wikipedia says: 80.0 for Coal

100.0 for Hydro

75 for Nuclear

18.0 for Wind

6.8 for PV Solar

I saw lower estimates for PV solar elsewhere hovering around 1.0 though, apparently the methods are controversial.

Either way, 6.8 is a still science experiment territory compared to other methods.

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Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by toomuchtodo on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @11:52PM (#14907779)
Come on, knock out being disingenuous. Science experiment territory? California and Germany have so much solar generation, they're having to take active measures to deal with the supply. And solar PV manufacturing capacity is only growing each year.

The U.K. Is closing the last of its coal plants in less than 5 years: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jul/19/how-coal-lo...

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Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by elsonrodriguez on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @10:20PM (#14916454)
That article shows a graph indicating that Gas is taking over for the lack of coal plants, and wind/solar are plateaued.

People want a high return on their energy investment to power modern society.

I'm sure solar will get better, and I encourage the fledgling consumer market and small-scale deployments to improve the tech, but it's not ready today, and the longer idealists keep peddling the idea that it IS ready, the longer we accelerate global warming.

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