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Re:S&P 500 to exclude Snap after voting rights debate by bluGill on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @05:03PM (#14905289)
Most index funds do not actually hold the index. They look at the index as a guide of the types of stocks to buy, but the fund manager still makes buy/sell decisions on any stock they want including those not in the index.

Index funds are actively managed. They difference from traditional funds in that they hold their stocks much longer. A traditional active fund is always asking the question "what stocks will go up the most in the short term" - when they get this right they do very well, but when they get it wrong they pay a lot more transaction fees which cuts their gains significantly. Because an index fund is asking "which stocks are worth holding for a long time" they don't have the pressures to find the best short term performing stocks and so their transaction fees are much less.

Re:S&P 500 to exclude Snap after voting rights debate by hendzen on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @05:08PM (#14905337)
This is completely wrong - not how ETFs work at all. If you have a large block of SPY you can redeem it for the index constituents. If you have a large block of the index constituents, you can redeem it for SPY.

When the SPY price rises above the price of the constituents, arbitrageurs (firms like Jane Street) will go and buy the constituents and create some SPY shares (and sell them for a profit). Similar for if the SPY price falls below the corresponding weighted sum of the constituents.

Re:S&P 500 to exclude Snap after voting rights debate by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @06:00PM (#14905784)
You're both right. There are two broad classes of exchange-traded products (ETPs): exchange-traded funds (ETFs) and exchange-traded notes (ETNs).

ETFs have a creation-redemption mechanism [1]. This keeps tracking error [2] low. It also forces ETFs to actually hold their component stocks.

Some clever financial engineers noticed they could approximate most of an index's performance with a few names and some clever trading. They issue ETNs. These are notes issued and backed by usually an investment bank that promise to pay interest in a way linked to an index. They have no requirement to hold the index's constituents.

[1] http://www.etf.com/etf-education-center/7540-what-is-the-etf...

[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracking_error