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Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by baby on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @10:29AM (#14900966)
> StartCom hired PwC for doing a full webtrust audit.

Is PwC any good for real security audits?

> StartCom hired Cure53 as suggested by Mozilla

Does that mean the report will be public? That's what Cure53 tend to do.

> c.- StartCom acquired EJBCA PKI software from Primekey (CA, VA and TSA). There´s no in-house development for PKI

After acquisition it is now in-house...

> e.- StartCom has developed a new CMS system and website, using a new language, PHP, from scratch.

This sounds like they're in need of a real webapp audit

Another question: are there any real reasons why we don't have critical name constraints to countries' TLDs?

Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by mmalone on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @01:16PM (#14903016)
> Is PwC any good for real security audits?

It depends on what you mean by "real security audits." If you want someone to audit your new crypto protocol, probably not. PwC is more about internal control / governance audits. They're making sure financial reporting is done correctly, segregation of duties are enforced within the organization, record retention policies are documented and enforced. Less technical, more organizational / meatspace. PwC is the sort of auditor that would find out that a company has a beneficial owner that's connected to a high ranking political figure in China... stuff like that. And I think they're pretty good at it.

Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by baby on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @07:56PM (#14906633)
I see. It looks like the security/crypto audit has gone to Cure53, which definitely looks like a serious consultancy.
Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by michaelt on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @11:36AM (#14901817)

  are there any real reasons why we don't have critical
  name constraints to countries' TLDs?
The reasoning I've heard is that .cn users' security requirements aren't any lower than .com users' security requirements. i.e. if startcom/Qihoo360 aren't good enough to issue .com, they're not good enough to issue .cn
Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by ameliaquining on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @11:57AM (#14902088)
Yeah, but reducing the number of CAs that are trusted for any given domain is likely positive.

I'm also curious as to how the Chinese government plays into all this. Do they have a track record of making trusted CAs misissue certificates?

Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by Ajedi32 on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @12:25PM (#14902420)
> Do they have a track record of making trusted CAs misissue certificates?

Probably not. Any CA missisuing certs intentionally (whether by government coercion or not) probably wouldn't remain trusted for long. So if the Chinese government is doing something like that, the public is certainly not aware of it, else there wouldn't be any Chinese CAs left that are still trusted.

Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by baby on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @08:01PM (#14906659)
That's the beauty of the trust store. The PKI might be a fucked up solution to our trust problem on the internet, but it puts enough pressure against governments to throw them away.
Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by baby on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @08:00PM (#14906654)
I've heard that some countries' CA tend to misbehave more than others, that would help.
Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by xori on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @10:51AM (#14901206)
The Cure53 report is public. Their final statement is positive.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8886970

Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by dylz on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @12:21PM (#14902376)
That is not the cure53 report unfortunately. Still looking for full audit report.
Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by baby on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @08:31PM (#14906806)
will there be a full report?
Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by dylz on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @01:05PM (#14912398)
I hope so. It would be in teresting to read.
Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by phonon on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @04:05PM (#14904764)
It's a webtrust audit, not a security audit per se.

http://www.webtrust.org/licensed-webtrust-practitioners-inte...

Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by baby on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @08:32PM (#14906811)
can you explain the difference?
Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by phonon on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @08:50PM (#14906923)
They are not checking if your systems are, say, vulnerable to a SQL injection attack. Take a look at

http://www.webtrust.org/homepage-documents/item54279.pdf

and say, a typical CPS

https://www.digicert.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/DigiCert...

They do an audit to check if all practices and procedures follow these guidelines.

Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by baby on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @09:07AM (#14910200)
Ah, a checklist audit.
Re:Startcom CA applies for inclusion in Mozilla by Ded7xSEoPKYNsDd on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @02:07AM (#14908287)
> After acquisition it is now in-house...

I first parsed this differently, too, but I think they just bought some software for PKI services, not the software company.