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Re:Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to... by enknamel on Monday July 31, 2017 @07:27PM (#14896746)
Yes. Now why do we need unions if their mission has been accomplished? Their purpose has been served.
Re:Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to... by jackvalentine on Monday July 31, 2017 @08:06PM (#14896923)
> Now why do we need unions if their mission has been accomplished?

To ensure that those protections are enforced. To ensure those protections aren't rolled back. To advocate for their membership in a changing economy where their work won't remain static for 40 years.

Maybe it's because I'm not American but is it really so hard to see why having someone to advocate for the people in the economy is a good thing? After all, companies are just 'capital unions' that advocate for their members.

Re:Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to... by DrScump on Monday July 31, 2017 @08:51PM (#14897100)
What makes you think that union leaders advocate primarily for "the people" as opposed to their own best interests?
Re:Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to... by jackvalentine on Monday July 31, 2017 @08:53PM (#14897108)
They often do either.

It's up to the members of a union to take sufficient interest in it that there are appropriate and effective governance structures in place - in the same way that it's up to the shareholders of a business to do the same.

Re:Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to... by DrScump on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @02:36AM (#14898367)
That's like blaming individual voters for misdeeds by legislative bodies. Except that with unions, ballots aren't necessarily secret.
Re:Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to... by jackvalentine on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @02:43AM (#14898384)
I wasn't aware I was blaming anyone for anything?

Organizations of any kind have someone they're supposed to serve - from your neighborhood bowls club to a fortune 500 company.

Organizational (corporate) governance is how you make sure the organization is operating for the benefit of its intended recipients.

Some organizations do governance well. Some do it badly. When the owners (shareholders, members etc) take their eye off the ball over time that organization will skew towards badly.

I don't think this is a controversial statement at all, even when applied to workers' unions.

Re:Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to... by crooked-v on Monday July 31, 2017 @07:33PM (#14896766)
You seem to assume that that certain factions (cough, cough, Republicans) won't happily roll back worker protections if unopposed.
Re:Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to... by mugrimm on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @07:22PM (#14906428)
Noted socialist publication Forbes disagrees with your assessment that they've been accomplished, specifically citing Tesla's insanely bad worker safety numbers:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarquet/2017/06/04/elon-mu...

Maybe if Musk spent time on his endeavor instead of throwing his time willy nilly in each direction he could have prevented a union. Cest la vive

Re:Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to... by lutorm on Monday July 31, 2017 @07:34PM (#14896770)
You're right, clearly American workers are doing great. </s>