Hacking Voting Machines at Defcon

Re:Hacking Voting Machines at Defcon by simias on Monday July 31, 2017 @09:55AM (#14891959)

You could just have pre-printed ballots with the name of the person you're voting for on them. That's how we do it in France, no pen or pencil required.

I think in the USA there tends to be several issues on the ballots however, so I guess it's not very practical in that case. It probably makes the counting harder however.

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Re:Hacking Voting Machines at Defcon by cr0sh on Monday July 31, 2017 @02:11PM (#14894521)

> You could just have pre-printed ballots with the name of the person you're voting for on them.

Imagine a ballot (or something) that had the pre-printed names on them something like those paper "call me for xyz" things you see on bulletin boards everywhere (or well you used to)?

Basically the names would be on pieces of paper (maybe with a QR code?) about the size of what you get in a fortune cookie, that can be tore off the "ballot" and dropped in a box for later counting. With a QR code (or something similar), the counting could even be done with a machine.

Such a paper ballot could arguably have many names attached (here in the US we have so many positions and votes to cast on so many things it's mind boggling, especially during certain election times). I'm not sure if or how well it would work, but I think it might be doable - at least enough to attempt.

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Re:Hacking Voting Machines at Defcon by dx034 on Monday July 31, 2017 @09:59AM (#14892003)

Ballots are usually pre-printed. But you still need a pen or pencil to check the right box.

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Re:Hacking Voting Machines at Defcon by simias on Monday July 31, 2017 @11:46AM (#14893020)

Right, but it's still probably slightly harder to fill and count. Not massively so of course but maybe enough to slow things down.

Compare https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/France_%... with http://etc.usf.edu/clippix/pix/2012-presidential-election-ba...

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Re:Hacking Voting Machines at Defcon by kalleboo on Monday July 31, 2017 @11:44AM (#14893005)

In the Swedish voting system, there is one ballot per party, and you put the ballot for the party you are voting for into an envelope and put that envelope into the ballot box.

You only need a pen/pencil if you want to change the parties default ranking of their candidates (e.g. who in the party you want to see as prime minister) or you want to vote for a minor party which doesn't have ballots (write-in votes)

[I'm not endorsing the Swedish system just explaining how it works]

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Re:Hacking Voting Machines at Defcon by Thlom on Monday July 31, 2017 @01:43PM (#14894268)

Same in norway. One ballot per party. In local elections we vote for both council and municipality, so there's two sets of ballots. Council ballot goes in one box and municipality ballot goes in another box. No reason why we couldn't have 20 boxes if we also voted for issues directly.

Also in local elections we can write in other people and give people on the ballot an "extra" vote for which we use a pen (but this is voluntary and I assume most don't bother).

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