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Re:Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Us... by deathanatos on Saturday July 29, 2017 @10:27AM (#14881368)
> It's so easy to claim the West shouldn't do what the leadership of China wants in China, but in reality the only alternative is to abandon China to those who will do what they are ordered to.

That line of "reasoning" makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy, then.

(It additionally feels ethically unsound to me; the "if I don't do it, someone else will, therefore it's okay" — no, it's still not okay. And that's what people are upset about.)

Re:Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Us... by intopieces on Saturday July 29, 2017 @10:48AM (#14881454)
Is there no chance whatsoever that large American companies could influence the Chinese government by establishing a market presence and then threatening to leave / alter it? This is what they do in the the US. I know that China is usually happy to just start their own Google/Facebook/Amazon/Netflix, so perhaps I'm being naive. As much as I cringe at American companies kowtowing to oppressive governments, it seems like exiting entirely is no strategy at all -- merely contrition in another form.
Re:Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Us... by ameen on Saturday July 29, 2017 @01:19PM (#14882124)
We've seen Chinese aspirational companies try and fail, eg: LeEco (Faraday Future, etc).

But Apple made it a company focus to court Chinese market. So they can't back down now. For some reason I've never really liked the Chinese government. They always come across as a benevolent dictator, they'll let you do business as long as you toe the line. Any inkling of freespeech or such ideas and you're out.

Re:Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Us... by wooter on Saturday July 29, 2017 @11:53AM (#14881758)
freedom of speech helps. where are grievances to this shitty policy aired to the govt by the public?
Re:Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Us... by afarrell on Saturday July 29, 2017 @10:38AM (#14881422)
But it is still game-theoretically correct.