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Re:Activation emails by mixmax on Friday March 28, 2008 @01:43PM (#148687)
Look at it from a business perspective:

What do you gain from having an e-mail:

- usually nothing, unless you send your users spam.

What do you lose from having an e-mail:

- around 10% of your potential customers. (the number probably varies wildly from site to site)

- People who lose their password can't get into their account, unless they choose to provide an optional e-mail adress.

To me that is a pretty clear choice.

Re:Activation emails by ivankirigin on Friday March 28, 2008 @01:59PM (#148711)
Confirmation emails might be useless, but notifications of new features are not spam.
Re:Activation emails by nilobject on Friday March 28, 2008 @02:02PM (#148713)
I generally get annoyed at sites that keep emailing me about new features. I always unsubscribe or opt-out at sign in, but some people don't offer that feature.
Re:Activation emails by kirubakaran on Friday March 28, 2008 @02:09PM (#148718)
Yup. If they don't let up, I mark those emails as "spam" in my Gmail. I guess that counts against them.

They should have a "Don't mail me bro" checkbox. I don't always agree with their definition of "spam".

Re:Activation emails by mixmax on Friday March 28, 2008 @02:04PM (#148716)
Yes you're right - this was just off the top of my head...

There might of course also be other valid reasons for wanting an e-mail adresse.

Re:Activation emails by powerflex on Friday March 28, 2008 @02:55PM (#148757)
Yeah, for example uniquely identifying users.
Re:Activation emails by mixmax on Friday March 28, 2008 @02:58PM (#148758)
You can do that with a username....
Re:Activation emails by powerflex on Friday March 28, 2008 @03:07PM (#148768)
True however then users have to think followed by get frustrated dreaming up a name. They already know their email address. And unless they already signed up its probably not taken.
Re:Activation emails by mixmax on Friday March 28, 2008 @03:27PM (#148787)
I think the frustration of entering your email, checking you inbox and following a confirmation link is a lot more than the frustration of dreaming up a name - which you have to do anyway unless you use your email as a login.

I think that the metrics support this view as well.

Re:Activation emails by huhtenberg on Friday March 28, 2008 @06:46PM (#148941)
An ability of directly communicating with your users has a very positive effect on a valuation of the company. One thing is when you have N million User IDs, and another - N millions emails.

Also if you are running a service with termed licensing, an email communication is how you drive the license renewal process. This sort of communication does not qualify as spam, because it is more of a service reminder rather than an unsolicited commercial offering.

Re:Activation emails by mixmax on Friday March 28, 2008 @10:09PM (#149076)
I see your point, and of course you are right that it drives your valuation upwards if you can engage in a genuine conversation with your customers.

I was referring more to the sign-up stage though, where you tend to lose a lot of potential customers with obligatory confirmation e-mails.

But if you can get the conversation going after the critical sign-up step, you should by all means do so.

Re:Activation emails by joshwa on Friday March 28, 2008 @03:40PM (#148800)
The other legitimate use of email is for actual features that use email-- internal messaging, invitations, notifications, reminders, etc.

All your users have it-- have you thought about when your users might like to be notified about new activity relating to them? (opt-in, of course)

Re:Activation emails by mixmax on Friday March 28, 2008 @04:04PM (#148823)
You're absolutely right - this is a good reason for having a users e-mail. There are probably many others as well.

You just shouldn't request an obligatory email adress, or even worse a confirmation by email, unless you really have to. It tends to scare a lot of users away.

Re:Activation emails by dbreunig on Friday March 28, 2008 @03:00PM (#148759)
Exactly. The business metric of email lists will keep them from going extinct.