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Re:Swedish Government Scrambles to Contain Damage from Data ... by beagle3 on Thursday July 27, 2017 @05:59AM (#14863882)
I am on mobile now, can't google efficiently, and the statistics here are lacking either way, but Swedish policy is to accept anyone who claims their are a minor and has no documents to prove otherwise - as a result, young people lose their docs and claim to be less than 18.

This was made widely public when a 23-year old who got asylum as a 17-year old killed a social worker at the asylum about a year ago, and investigation showed that at least 10% of "minor" asylum seekers at that place were above 20. Google may give you more details.

Re:Swedish Government Scrambles to Contain Damage from Data ... by Hasknewbie on Thursday July 27, 2017 @08:44AM (#14864723)
I did not know that (and that was certainly more informative than the other guy's post). Although I understand the duty to assist minor, the lack of checks is disturbing, especially since it's likely to not go well for anyone (having known someone who did work on refugee cases a while ago, having no legal documents can lengthen the procedure significantly, so they'll be stuck in a center for years, and they do check testimonies as much as possible, so they may end up getting kicked out).

I did Google, and Google tells me Sweden wants to introduce age tests to address this issue (I hope they don't outsource it to IBM).

I disagree with your other post regarding the fact that a refugee being 16 or a young adult doesn't change much: what we are discussing here, beside the racist Predatory Brown Men are coming! thing, is the legitimate concern over the necessary cultural integration of refugees in their host country Vs becoming a problem for society. We know that a husband or dad (or a family unit in general) is much less likely to cause any trouble. That would less be the case with a young single adult, who is fully autonomous and has no dependents. A kid, even at 17, is much less autonomous, will have an educator or foster family, will go to school, etc, they are going to be 'enrolled' much more actively into society.

Re:Swedish Government Scrambles to Contain Damage from Data ... by beagle3 on Thursday July 27, 2017 @02:13PM (#14867930)
> A kid, even at 17, is much less autonomous, will have an educator or foster family, will go to school, etc, they are going to be 'enrolled' much more actively into society.

That's nice in theory, but it doesn't actually bear out in practice. As one example, according to [0], even second or third generations fail to integrate (with disastrous results), and AFAIK that's the rule rather than the exception (though there are quite a few exceptions, more in the UK, less in mainland Europe). It's not enough if even 50% integrate successfully when the number of immigrants is so high.

[0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/brussels-molen...