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Re:Announcing the Windows Bounty Program by mercurysmessage on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @03:15PM (#14859225)
Yes, I'm pretty glad this is around. Hopefully it will lead to less NSA exploits.
Re:Announcing the Windows Bounty Program by astrodust on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @03:21PM (#14859291)
The NSA will just have to pay more.
Re:Announcing the Windows Bounty Program by tptacek on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @03:30PM (#14859371)
Which is actually sort of a worst-case scenario (not that I think this bounty is bad), because NSA's primary objective is in fact not to hack all your Windows machines, or even to hack anyone's Windows machine. NSA's primary objective is to secure more budget/headcount for NSA.
Re:Announcing the Windows Bounty Program by cperciva on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @03:46PM (#14859548)
While that's true, the NSA's secondary objective is to be the only people who have an arsenal of exploits. Since they have the largest budget, having the price of exploits go up only helps this goal.
Re:Announcing the Windows Bounty Program by tptacek on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @04:05PM (#14859754)
Right. I don't think bounties like this alarm NSA in any way. In fact, since NSA probably believes it has a practically unlimited capability of acquiring Windows vulnerabilities, the bounty probably helps, by taking the heat off them and the intractable notion of a "vulnerability equities process".

I think it's more important to remember the NSA's primary goal in other security conversations. What you really don't want to do is propose protocols that leave plausible-but-difficult attack vectors for NSA, because "plausible-but-difficult" is probably inscribed in Latin on some seal somewhere in Ft. Meade.

Re:Announcing the Windows Bounty Program by astrodust on Thursday July 27, 2017 @10:11PM (#14871382)
I bet the NSA can and would pay a billion dollars for an exploit that was worth it, but other nation-states would be shut out from bidding simply because they couldn't even if they wanted to.

It would taken an extraordinary exploit to be worth that much, but imagine a flaw in some weapons platform used by an aggressor that's impractical or impossible to patch and allows for remote code execution. If the US was trying to fend off an attack, or was embroiled in a conflict where this would be an invaluable asset, could end the conflict overnight, they'd pony up.

Like if it could allow them to hack the enemy's radar system to render allied jets invisible, or could corrupt the firmware in anti-aircraft missiles to make them always miss their targets, that would be worth a billion. If it prevented the loss of a few high-value planes it'd pay for itself instantly.

Re:Announcing the Windows Bounty Program by mercurysmessage on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @03:25PM (#14859341)
Where the people pay increased taxes to help the NSA spy on them easier.
Re:Announcing the Windows Bounty Program by mtgx on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @03:28PM (#14859365)
That $50+ billion black budget doesn't spend itself.
Re:Announcing the Windows Bounty Program by Fej on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @03:25PM (#14859332)
They have an almost unlimited budget, as far as we know.
Re:Announcing the Windows Bounty Program by monocasa on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @03:45PM (#14859533)
Eh, I don't know anyone who when faced with managing billions of dollars has said, "OK, this is enough money".