Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by dboreham on Monday July 24, 2017 @08:39PM
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There will emerge a "CryptoCurrency+ruleOfLaw" that will succeed in the evolutionary race.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by function_seven on Monday July 24, 2017 @10:02PM
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All Ethereum contracts will incorporate the entirety of the relevant national, state, and local laws into their code.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by serhei on Monday July 24, 2017 @11:22PM
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I certainly don't look forward to auditing a Solidity contract with the complexity of the federal tax code.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by smokeyj on Monday July 24, 2017 @09:44PM
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Maybe we could just sticky this comment for every crypto thread.
It's interesting to see the objections change over the years. It used to be "bitcoin will never last past the year" to "bitcoin will never survive the next 30 years".
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by ZedDogX on Monday July 24, 2017 @08:41PM
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Well, the coins have to come out of that wallet eventually, and you can trace where they go.. so.. I wonder if there will ever be any attempt by a government to extradite somebody based on stolen crypto.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by StavrosK on Monday July 24, 2017 @08:48PM
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That's not the case for every cryptocurrency, though. Some are untraceable.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by wickawic on Monday July 24, 2017 @08:51PM
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At some point you have to turn your currency into something useful to you. I won't say that this is always traceable, but Bitcoin doesn't obviate the need for a fence.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by StavrosK on Monday July 24, 2017 @10:55PM
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Bitcoin can be tracked and a government could mandate that the bitcoins you use to buy a house be from the "legitimate" subset of bitcoins. With Monero, you can earn money from selling weed and turn around and buy a car with the exact same coins. Nobody can even ask you to prove where they came from, short of declaring them as income, (as with cash) but that becomes much harder when you can just fly to France, buy a house there (the government doesn't care if you paid taxes for that money in another country), and fly back.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by DennisP on Monday July 24, 2017 @09:12PM
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Yes but the private currencies break the linkage between transactions. You turn the currency into something useful, and that's probably traceable to you, but nobody can tell where that currency came from.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by pyre on Monday July 24, 2017 @11:17PM
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Right, but the transaction that turns Bitcoin into another currency is traceable because someone needs to claim that currency, either via ETF into a bank account or physically going to pick it up.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by DennisP on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @05:59AM
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Absolutely, and for Bitcoin that's a big problem for a thief. But for a private currency like ZCash or Monero, nobody can tell where the coins came from. They can't prove you stole them.
E.g. with one scheme, you destroy your coins and get a proof that you destroyed them. Later you can submit your proof to the blockchain and get new coins minted for you. But it's provably impossible to for anyone to figure out which coins you destroyed.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by StavrosK on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @06:32AM
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You could just spend them at a legitimate business though.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by pyre on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @12:37PM
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How do you redeem your goods and services without somehow tying it to yourself? For example, physical goods need to be shipped somewhere. There seems to be a limited number of things that you can spend your cypto-currency on that would not somehow be traceable back to an actual person, no?
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by Mahn on Monday July 24, 2017 @08:39PM
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It's always the wild west when a technology or medium is new, isn't it? The same could be said of the web in the nineties or facebook/mobile apps a decade ago.
Re:Police investigating stolen laptops discover Bitcoin heist
by mannykannot on Monday July 24, 2017 @08:43PM
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The nominal value at risk puts it in a different category.
But holy shit turning a world currency into the wild west - for better or worse - is going to be disruptive, period.
I can only imagine the debacles that we have to look forward to, and I say that in full support of and as a long term believer in both blockchain and cryptocurrencies.