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Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet by Teknoman117 on Monday July 24, 2017 @05:26PM (#14842863)
You have to love the people in the comments section there. Few seem to understand that one of the major points of electric cars is decoupling the energy generation and expenditure. Sure, if your country generates all its electricity with coal then of course electric cars aren't going to do anything for you at first. The whole concept is that you reduce the number of sources of pollution so that you have less things that you have to replace in the future.
Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet by johngalt on Monday July 24, 2017 @05:42PM (#14842981)
Yes the meme of the "coal powered car". TBF, I wouldn't mind that at all. That means we could be domestically self sufficient with our energy needs. Not to mention it's a lot easier/cheaper to have one big coal plant with one set of emissions controls, rather than thousands of gas engines with controls in various states of maintenance and disrepair.

Imagine the converse. If we had electric cars today and were proposing moving to liquid fuels. No one would recommend it. "Hey what if we brought all the pollution closer to us and where our families live. That sounds like a great idea!"

Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet by cowmix on Monday July 24, 2017 @05:31PM (#14842912)
Even if 101% of your electricity is coal generated, you are head of the game with EVs.

My gen-1 Volt travels about 27 miles on the electricity/energy it takes to refine one gallon of gas. Basically, if you stopped refining gas, you could power almost all of the EVs on the road with the same energy.

Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet by konspence on Monday July 24, 2017 @05:40PM (#14842969)
Does this include the energy in the refined gas itself?
Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet by cowmix on Monday July 24, 2017 @06:05PM (#14843161)
That is the energy it takes to create the gas (and not the energy to extract and move around).

Again, my EV goes the same distance as the average fuel economy for the same amount of energy.

ICE double dip.. plus more.