Re:Show HN: $200 Solar Self-Sufficiency Without Your Landlo...
by xsmasher on Friday July 21, 2017 @05:53PM
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Those calculations also assume he'll use all of the energy it produces, every day, with no loss; it's a back-of-envelope best-case calculation, at best.
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Re:Show HN: $200 Solar Self-Sufficiency Without Your Landlo...
by matt_wulfeck on Friday July 21, 2017 @07:47PM
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If we're getting into the nitty-gritty, then let's also include energy cost inflation into the equation. These numbers are for PG&E which is roughly equivalent for SF:
2001: 0.10c kw/h
2017: 0.28c kw/h (as per my recent bill)
That's an average of 10% increase in energy cost per year!
Re:Show HN: $200 Solar Self-Sufficiency Without Your Landlo...
by jldugger on Saturday July 22, 2017 @03:55AM
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Isn't 2001 during the Enron fucking with the West Coast for profit years? A quick review of wikipedia suggests that in 2001 prices may have been held artificially low. A quote by Gray Davis seem instructive:
> "Believe me, if I wanted to raise rates I could have solved this problem in 20 minutes."
Re:Show HN: $200 Solar Self-Sufficiency Without Your Landlo...
by sokoloff on Friday July 21, 2017 @10:56PM
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2.8x increase over 16 years is a CAGR of 6.6%, not 10%.
(1.066 ^ 16 = 2.8)
Re:Show HN: $200 Solar Self-Sufficiency Without Your Landlo...
by matt_wulfeck on Friday July 21, 2017 @11:58PM
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Correction acknowledges!
Re:Show HN: $200 Solar Self-Sufficiency Without Your Landlo...
by nikodunk on Friday July 21, 2017 @09:03PM
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Hahahaha that's an awesome point and not something I'd thought of.
But it seems that on your recent bill they're including the service fee in that – I'm only paying 14 I believe? Also, wasn't energy super expensive in 2001 due to deregulation? (I'd need to research this, not sure).
Re:Show HN: $200 Solar Self-Sufficiency Without Your Landlo...
by galdosdi on Friday July 21, 2017 @06:12PM
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Given his current setup, you have a good point.
However, with a setup that includes say, his refrigerator, there'll be more than enough load to ensure no collected energy is ever "wasted"