Re:A hacker stole $31M of Ether – how it happened, and what ...
by erikpukinskis on Friday July 21, 2017 @03:28PM
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> They are tools that shift the control over money from large trusted third parties to individuals. They literally allow an individual to be their own bank.
You're not thinking big enough. All I need to be a bank is some money to lend, or safe to put deposits in.
Cryptocurrencies let people be their own nation state.
Re:A hacker stole $31M of Ether – how it happened, and what ...
by Jabanga on Friday July 21, 2017 @10:33PM
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You're right. You can live in Cuba, and yet virtually live in a cyber nation using nothing other than an internet connection.
Re:A hacker stole $31M of Ether – how it happened, and what ...
by wdewind on Friday July 21, 2017 @11:39AM
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> They literally allow an individual to be their own bank.
The main function of banks is issuing debt, not holding cash.
Re:A hacker stole $31M of Ether – how it happened, and what ...
by andrepd on Friday July 21, 2017 @12:53PM
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Both are central functions of banks, debt is not the main one.
Re:A hacker stole $31M of Ether – how it happened, and what ...
by wdewind on Friday July 21, 2017 @03:11PM
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Saying that bitcoin allows users to act as their own banks is like saying a mattress with your cash under it is your own bank. It's not meaningful in anyway. Debt is the meaningful differentiator.
Re:A hacker stole $31M of Ether – how it happened, and what ...
by erikpukinskis on Friday July 21, 2017 @03:38PM
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No, ability to issue a controlled lot of physical currency is the meaningful differentiator, which is why the relation to banks is irrelevant.
I can buy $1 worth of Bitcoin, declare it ErikCoin, acceptable only in my stores at a 1/1,000,000 denomination, and I instantly "minted" $1,000,000 in cryptocurrency, using only the Bitcoin blockchain.
Bitcoin doesn't let people be banks, it let's people be the mint.
Re:A hacker stole $31M of Ether – how it happened, and what ...
by wdewind on Friday July 21, 2017 @04:24PM
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How is that different from virtual currency in video games?
Re:A hacker stole $31M of Ether – how it happened, and what ...
by erikpukinskis on Friday July 21, 2017 @07:43PM
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- Blizzard can't wipe your balance
- You can't destroy anyone's balance after you've issued them currency
- Balances are publicly verifiable
- Balances can be stored in one's mind
... lots of things. Tons of affordances differ from a game currency.
They are a counter-force against the trend toward eliminating cash, and with it, financial privacy [1]:
>Any future cashless bank-payments society will be the outcome of a deliberate war on cash waged by an alliance of three elite groups with deep interests in seeing it emerge.
These statements from an executive at MasterCard are a great window into the company's designs on cash and its electronic corollaries:
>There's huge interest in cryptocurrencies and what perhaps they can create in the market place. Now we at MasterCard are not completely comfortable with the idea of cryptocurrencies largely because they go against the whole principle that we've established our business on which is really moving to a world beyond cash and ensuring greater transparency.. If you think about it, cash is a problem for a number of countries. Cash really facilitates anonymity, it facilitates illegal activity, it facilitates tax avoidance and a range of other things that aren't going to drive efficiency in an economy
-https://youtu.be/bO4jHXjCXw8?t=2m57s
>If it's an anonymous transaction, that sounds like a suspicious transaction. Why does somebody need to be anonymous?
-http://youtu.be/bO4jHXjCXw8#t=4m12s
[1] https://aeon.co/essays/if-plastic-replaces-cash-much-that-is...