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Re:Jamie Dimon blows up at DC's dysfunction by lend000 on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @09:31PM (#14809411)
Unfortunately, you are correct about that -- it isn't a mainstream view at all, which is why I share it during relevant discussions.

However, the fact that a narrative with political implications is "mainstream" does nothing for its credibility. I try to understand how these things work and while it's a pretty nebulous domain, the factors I presented are what seem to be the most significant I've seen in explaining the behavior of the real estate market, and further, the market at large, in '01-'08.

We are both rightfully upset that the crisis "somehow led to trillions of dollars missing" -- while paper wealth and market cycles are inevitable, the magnitude and 'unfairness' of this event is clearly a problem. However, when you then confidently assert the cause: "banks got really creative, a bunch of people made nice bonuses, then when their fancy leveraged mechanisms went bad, we all had to bail them out" without any details or refutation of the explanation I posted, to which you were responding...

Well, what I read was "I'm not sure what happened but I don't like it [rightfully so], and this narrative gives me an easy scapegoat -- an evil, shadowy figure, of sorts -- to blame, which seems to absolve me of needing to understand any of the mechanics involved, and which also happens to validate my pre-existing political beliefs."

Re:Jamie Dimon blows up at DC's dysfunction by jbooth on Thursday July 20, 2017 @11:42AM (#14813463)
Funny, I think the same thing about evil, shadowy scapegoats.

When we have a market crash caused by private actors trading and someone says "OBVIOUSLY the problem is GOVERNMENT" I think they're arguing backwards from ideology rather than working forwards from observation.

Re:Jamie Dimon blows up at DC's dysfunction by lend000 on Thursday July 20, 2017 @01:10PM (#14814355)
Indeed, which is why I made sure to include something different: the technical analysis and mechanics of the issue.