Andy Grove: How To Make An American Job Before It's Too Late

Re:Andy Grove: How To Make An American Job Before It's Too Late by rbranson on Thursday July 01, 2010 @08:46PM (#1479763)

Oh yes, the EPA and Department of Labor, with their obnoxious "don't fuck up the environment" and "don't treat people like shit" rules. God damn them.

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Re:Andy Grove: How To Make An American Job Before It's Too Late by anamax on Friday July 02, 2010 @01:40AM (#1480325)

That would be the EPA that is blocking the use of many oil skimmers in the Gulf and forcing the ones that they approve to run at about 1/6th efficiency.

And that's the department of labor that is keeping experienced crews from running the skimmers that the EPA approves.

I forget which department decided that oil in sensitive wetlands was better than putting up sand berms.

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Re:Andy Grove: How To Make An American Job Before It's Too Late by cia_plant on Friday July 02, 2010 @09:20AM (#1481019)

Citation?

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Re:Andy Grove: How To Make An American Job Before It's Too Late by Aaronontheweb on Friday July 02, 2010 @04:04PM (#1482185)

Seriously? Have you been living in a cave for the past two weeks? Try using Google. Ok you know what - I'll do it:

The sandberms fiasco was the work of the Fish and Wildlife Service: http://www.wdsu.com/news/23997498/detail.html

The "A-Whale" fiasco appears to be a joint fail between the Coast Guard and the EPA - among many other things they've had to sit around and wait for an EPA permit before they can start the work, and now that they're actually in the gulf there are even more problems:

http://www.dailypress.com/news/oil-spill/dp-nws-oil-skimmer-...

http://www.wwltv.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/A-Whale-Of-A-Skimme...

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Re:Andy Grove: How To Make An American Job Before It's Too Late by cia_plant on Friday July 02, 2010 @08:01PM (#1482802)

Well, that does have something to do with oil skimmers, and something to do with the EPA, but it doesn't support what anamax said. Obviously I did search google for terms like "EPA oil skimmer", which came up with this "A Whale" stuff and little else - so I was wondering if anamax had a source which addressed his particular claims (apparently not). The sand berms thing seems to be inaccurately paraphrased by anamax as well.

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Re:Andy Grove: How To Make An American Job Before It's Too Late by anamax on Friday July 02, 2010 @11:40PM (#1483181)

http://www.examiner.com/x-325-Global-Warming-Examiner~y2010m...

You can also Google "Jones Act".

Suppose that my original post hadclaimed that Obama was doing a great job and offered comparable support. Would you have asked for citations?

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Re:Andy Grove: How To Make An American Job Before It's Too Late by donw on Thursday July 01, 2010 @10:04PM (#1479903)

Seriously. I mean, when has a private, for-profit corporate entity not been a responsible steward of the environment?

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