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Re:I cannot consistently write safe C/C++ code by kbenson on Monday July 17, 2017 @01:23PM (#14790585)
> It sure is too broad for all existing software to compile, but if we're talking about security-critical software

The problem I have with this is the assumption that software you write that may be used by others can easily be classified into security-critical software and non-security-critical software. Sometimes you don't know, sometimes it changes ten years later as something gets pulled in and used because it's easier, multiple times over the years until the original author of a portion of the code may be entirely unknown, much less their intention for whether it was sufficiently robust for security critical situations (think an OSS library that may have forked a few times, and copied small bits of code such as utility functions from some other projects).

It's time to switch to safety by default. We should fail safe, and require flags to allow previously failing code to compile, not to just hear that it might cause a problem.

Re:I cannot consistently write safe C/C++ code by clarry on Monday July 17, 2017 @02:35PM (#14791179)
Right, that is why I proposed people to use -Werror, even if that means you have to vet and fix third party code (which you should do anyway if you're depending on it). Ideally you use other tools too.

Apart from that, don't assume flags and static analyzers can save you. If you're building something security critical, you do not make any assumptions about the code you depend on. You don't assume it is in some class. You don't "don't know", you vet the code. Flags and analyzers, default or not, are at best going to save you from a small subset of problems. The code might still be completely backwards and insecure.