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Re:Prime Minister claims laws of mathematics 'do not apply' ... by shakna on Monday July 17, 2017 @01:34AM (#14785917)
The conversation was being had: this is the politicians ending it.

They've consulted with security experts, who said it would be universally bad for encryption.

They've consulted with economists, who said it would be a dangerous idea that could have unintended effects.

They consulted with sociologists, who said that history shows that this power will be abused.

They consulted with lawyers, who said that this kind of law cannot currently be made safe for the populace.

After all this consultation with the right people in the right fields... They've decided that the handful of dangerous individuals who may make use of this technology, without hard evidence that they actually do, make the risks worthwhile. In direct contradiction to those they consulted.

What conversation is left to be had?

Re:Prime Minister claims laws of mathematics 'do not apply' ... by exodust on Monday July 17, 2017 @06:30AM (#14787143)
I have no idea what Turnbull's game is, but his late-to-the-party argument is flawed.

People want encryption to work properly, not 'sorta, kinda'. The internet is plagued by enough security flaws and threats, we don't need more.

In the event he gets his back door or weak encryption by law, there's nothing stopping criminals from using systems that aren't part of the "broken encryption gang".

There's no conversation left to be had. There is only comics...

https://xkcd.com/538/