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Re:Kindness is Underrated (2014) by JoshTriplett on Sunday July 16, 2017 @01:48PM (#14783211)
That's a self-fulfilling problem, though: if you have a community of people built around flames and attacks, then anything short of that may have a harder time getting noticed and acknowledged. It raises the noise floor, and drowns out other signals.

Build a community that doesn't have that problem, and people will respect disagreement and "don't do that" without the accompanying toxicity.

Re:Kindness is Underrated (2014) by pdonis on Sunday July 16, 2017 @03:24PM (#14783696)
> if you have a community of people built around flames and attacks

The Linux community is not built around flames and attacks. Linus' flames are what get public attention, but that doesn't mean they are the majority, or even a significant minority, of all his communications. He has explained many times exactly what the conditions are under which he will flame--basically, that a kernel developer does something that he has already explained many, many times should never be done, like breaking userspace. Do something that meets those conditions, you get flamed. Don't do something like that, and you don't.

Re:Kindness is Underrated (2014) by JoshTriplett on Sunday July 16, 2017 @05:54PM (#14784304)
The Linux kernel community, by and large, has far more vitriol than average. It's far more than just Linus; many other developers do the same.
Re:Kindness is Underrated (2014) by pdonis on Sunday July 16, 2017 @06:18PM (#14784394)
Do you have data backing this up, or is it just an opinion?
Re:Kindness is Underrated (2014) by JoshTriplett on Sunday July 16, 2017 @06:26PM (#14784425)
Personal experience working in that community and other communities for a prolonged period of time, as well as the first-hand experience of many other developers I've worked with, and the second-hand reports of an even larger set of developers.

I'm also aware of projects to do more formal analysis of various FOSS communities, such as FOSS Heartbeat.

But in the meantime, the plural of "anecdote" is absolutely "data" for sufficiently large values of "plural".

Re:Kindness is Underrated (2014) by pdonis on Sunday July 16, 2017 @08:55PM (#14784961)
> the plural of "anecdote" is absolutely "data" for sufficiently large values of "plural".

I disagree, but I doubt we're going to resolve that here. To me, "the plural of anecdote is data" means "I can't be bothered to figure out whether the information I have is actually representative of the population".