>This is a silly straw man. Who says we can't reduce our resource usage without destroying modern society? Our massive amounts of waste are not necessary to our way of life.

Modern society can become more "efficient;" produce less waste per cap. But we can't bring everyone (and their future pop growth) into this lifestyle without enviro impact. We can achieve it if high growth pops reduce growth and we all aim for more efficient lifestyles.

>Except you are saying that, because you're suggesting they shouldn't be allowed to have as many children as they'd like.

Nope. I'm saying like China, they can if they curtail pop growth. Compare the trajectories of China and India.