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Re:Idaho has made it easier for companies to enforce noncomp... by Clubber on Saturday July 15, 2017 @10:42AM (#14776851)
I guarantee the majority of companies don't even know what's in that contract. They just pulled it off the internet because someone said, "Oh crap, we need an employee agreement. Google one." or "Find someone else's contract agreement."

If they go through all the trouble of recruiting you, interviewing you and deciding they want you, they'll be willing to consider revising it, especially since they probably didn't give it much thought in the first place.

Just raise your concerns in an intelligible way and don't be an asshole about it. I just did that for a contract. I said, "I can't give you all my inventions, I have a ton of them." They didn't even realize that was in the contract and they revised it. Poof. I got a fair agreement.

Re:Idaho has made it easier for companies to enforce noncomp... by ryandrake on Saturday July 15, 2017 @11:49AM (#14777247)
This has not been my experience at all. At every place I've ever worked, when I pointed out things in the employment agreements that I objected to, I was given a very stern and unambiguous "Sign it unmodified or GTFO." I've pretty much stopped asking. There's always a line out the door of people who are in equal need of the job and will sign whatever is put in front of them.
Re:Idaho has made it easier for companies to enforce noncomp... by Clubber on Saturday July 15, 2017 @12:14PM (#14777394)
All the ones I've ever signed had an exception list for previous IP. You can sign it as is, just make sure your exceptions include all your previous work. You try something like, "Excluding any work or IP made or started before employment with xyz." "Excluding any work not explicitly requested by company xyz, etc." That way you can sign it as is but use the exceptions section.

You have to ask yourself, is working for that company worth giving them explicit rights for all your prior work you've done for yourself? That's exactly what they are asking for in most cases. Let's say you make it big with something you wrote before you even started working there and they find out. They can take it right from under you if you sign that contract without exceptions. Just know what you are getting into and what they are really asking you to commit to.

I actually left a job because I wanted to start a new project and I had signed a similar document without an exception. I didn't want them to have any claim with the IP. Also know, any investors will probably shy away from you if you've signed away your IP rights like that.

Re:Idaho has made it easier for companies to enforce noncomp... by crdoconnor on Saturday July 15, 2017 @02:51PM (#14778259)
>I guarantee the majority of companies don't even know what's in that contract. They just pulled it off the internet

I worked for one of those companies once. He apparently didn't read his bank statements either, hence I didn't get paid for a significant chunk of the work I did.

Nobody before or since has acted surprised about the contents of their own contract. I'd view it as a major red flag.