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Re:Seeing AI for iOS by reitanqild on Saturday July 15, 2017 @05:58AM (#14775900)
Also rumours has it that Apple punishes you in the app store if you launch on Android first.
Re:Seeing AI for iOS by pmarreck on Saturday July 15, 2017 @09:02AM (#14776439)
I just used my best google-fu and can find no evidence for this. If you're going to make controversial claims like that in the future, include a link to the evidence or you will mostly just end up spreading FUD.
Re:Seeing AI for iOS by reitanqild on Saturday July 15, 2017 @10:05AM (#14776654)
Upvoted you. Couldn't find it either. Think it was in a checklist I read once.
Re:Seeing AI for iOS by pmarreck on Saturday July 15, 2017 @11:10AM (#14777025)
It's missing because Apple took it down wherever it was, obviously.

/conspiracyfallacysarcasm :)

Re:Seeing AI for iOS by bobsam on Saturday July 15, 2017 @12:33PM (#14777488)
I think @rustyshelf has removed the most salty posts, but the bulk of the story is still somewhere in their blog:

https://blog.shiftyjelly.com

Re:Seeing AI for iOS by mtgx on Saturday July 15, 2017 @06:39AM (#14776007)
Sounds like FUD.
Re:Seeing AI for iOS by bostand on Saturday July 15, 2017 @06:52AM (#14776045)
Its not. Developers of a famous podcast app have a number of long posts about this subject.

Also, Apple will ban your app if it has the word "android" anywhere in it.

Re:Seeing AI for iOS by pmarreck on Saturday July 15, 2017 @09:04AM (#14776441)
So a single app developer experienced unknown delays and attributed that to the fact that they launched on Android first... How's that anecdotal evidence going?
Re:Seeing AI for iOS by ClassyJacket on Saturday July 15, 2017 @09:24AM (#14776504)
I'm sure the part about Apple punishing you for launching on Android first is rubbish, but the second claim is true - App Store rules are that you can't mention the word 'Android'.

Rule 2.3.1:

"don’t include names, icons, or imagery of other mobile platforms in your app or metadata"

And here is a case where they actually enforced it:

http://bgr.com/2015/05/21/app-store-rejection-android-ios/

Re:Seeing AI for iOS by pmarreck on Saturday July 15, 2017 @09:33AM (#14776542)
OK so one datapoint! But not to the most controversial claim.
Re:Seeing AI for iOS by allover on Saturday July 15, 2017 @07:17AM (#14776105)
> Developers of a famous podcast app have a number of long posts about this subject.

Do you have a link?

Re:Seeing AI for iOS by mekazu on Saturday July 15, 2017 @10:34AM (#14776816)
Nope, the company is called shifty jelly. They've still got other iOS apps though so it wouldn't surprise if they were taken down.
Re:Seeing AI for iOS by allover on Saturday July 15, 2017 @11:53AM (#14777261)
Ah the company behind Pocket Casts (love that app). Well I searched through their blog and could only find Amazon App Store drama.

I'm going to assume the original statement is FUD as accused. It does seem incredibly unlikely a dev could draw such a link even if Apple were doing that kind of penalisation (which makes literally no sense to me).

Re:Seeing AI for iOS by bobsam on Saturday July 15, 2017 @12:48PM (#14777559)
Re:Seeing AI for iOS by allover on Saturday July 15, 2017 @02:13PM (#14778055)
Could you point to where in the episode the 'Apple punishes if you're in the Android app store first' idea is covered?

(I'll probably listen anyway since I like those guys, but still ...)

Re:Seeing AI for iOS by bobsam on Saturday July 15, 2017 @02:26PM (#14778131)
My headphones are out of juice so you have settle for this summary:

> Coincidentally, Russell Ivanovic is a case in point for what could happen if you defy Apple and launch on Android first. Ivanovic had initially been very lucky to have been assigned an Apple Developer Relations representative who gave him exclusive promotional opportunities. Few developers get assigned these representatives. Among the benefits Ivanovic received was the privilege to have Shifty Jelly's apps preloaded on iPads in Apple stores in Australia, a major marketing boost.

> Things went south In 2012, when Ivanovic launched a new version of the Pocket Casts app on the Android Play Store first, rather than Apple's App Store. The launch was a real success, and he publicly shared the good news. Before he knew it, his Apple Developer Relations representative stopped all contact. The representative would not even answer his emails. Ivanovic had been completely shut out.

Source: http://www.elischiff.com/blog/2015/3/24/fear-of-apple

Re:Seeing AI for iOS by allover on Saturday July 15, 2017 @02:44PM (#14778211)
Ah okay, so at most it's a withdrawal of special treatment, NOT punishing a regular app's position in the app store because they launched in the Android store first, which was how the original accusation sounded.

But thanks for the info, I can see it certainly would stink to be treated that way, losing your benefits and being ignored by your contact.

Re:Seeing AI for iOS by bobsam on Saturday July 15, 2017 @02:53PM (#14778274)
These guys were on the featured list and showcased in apple commercials before they were suddenly dropped.

I am not sure if this is "withdrawal of special treatment". These guys made great ios apps, both before and after they started making Android apps.

Re:Seeing AI for iOS by allover on Saturday July 15, 2017 @03:29PM (#14778464)
The sections you quoted specifically mention special privileges (and that the Dev Rel representative thing is rare).

And it was those things which they lost right, rather than some kind of search position punishment?