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Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by 4y5yswghe on Thursday July 13, 2017 @04:48PM (#14765072)
Crossing out 'Black lives matter' and writing 'All lives matter' is, to me, the equivalent of denigrating the NAACP because all people deserve advancement. Yes, 'All lives matter' is a true statement. But by writing that you come off as being completely oblivious to context and why 'Black lives matter' was written in the first place.

EDIT: Perhaps BLM could have averted all of this hubbub regarding the phrase if they had just included the implied 'too'. As in, 'Black lives matter too.'

Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by jgh on Thursday July 13, 2017 @04:43PM (#14765020)
Crossing out "Black lives matter" in favor of "All lives matter" is not pursuing equality. It is doing the opposite.
Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by aaron-lebo on Thursday July 13, 2017 @04:51PM (#14765106)
Do we pretend these things matter at all? Crossing out something on a bulletin board isn't really pursuing anything and is about as consequential as your post. They're fun meme friendly phrases that mean nothing in the real world.

Both phrases are true and based on who is saying them can be fully believed statements.

Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by jgh on Thursday July 13, 2017 @05:01PM (#14765193)
Seriously? You're sitting here on an influential industry message board in a discussion about a company that is the largest social network in the world, with an incredible amount of indirect political influence, trying to tell me that words don't matter.
Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by aaron-lebo on Thursday July 13, 2017 @05:03PM (#14765213)
They matter a lot less than hunger or starvation or poverty or lack of opportunity which is what those word represent. You can say words all day but they won't change a thing.

The petty internal fights of Facebook co-workers crossing out do not matter. Without this article you'd never even know it is happening and just because someone is using the right shibboleth doesn't mean they are a good actor.

Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by jgh on Thursday July 13, 2017 @05:07PM (#14765253)
No, just stop. You're fighting the wrong battle here. "Black lives matter" has a very specific meaning and "all lives matter" is a bigoted attempt to undermine the message. Don't try to whattabout me into a bunch of other stuff outside of the scope of the point I was making.
Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by aaron-lebo on Thursday July 13, 2017 @05:09PM (#14765271)
So you're gonna put words into other mouths and pretend to understand their motivations (they're just bigots)...and then complain about the same thing?
Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by orf on Thursday July 13, 2017 @05:42PM (#14765523)
Surely if all lives matter they would stand with BLM, and not cross out their message. Seems biggoted to me.
Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by netinstructions on Thursday July 13, 2017 @04:45PM (#14765048)
Huh? You can't get past Zuckerberg for asking staff to stop being disrespectful?
Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by geofft on Thursday July 13, 2017 @04:41PM (#14765006)
How is crossing out "Black lives matter" in any sense related to pursuing actual equality?

I also am definitely opposed to Zuckerberg for president, but I just don't understand the logic here. If they were merely writing "All other lives matter too," I'd understand where you were coming from, but I don't understand how crossing out the statement is praiseworthy.

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Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by komaromy on Thursday July 13, 2017 @04:58PM (#14765170)
Personally, I think that the United States has systematically mistreated black people for centuries and not acknowledging that such problems still exist is willful ignorance.
Re:Potential Presidency for Zuckerberg? by geofft on Thursday July 13, 2017 @05:15PM (#14765321)
> Personally, I think saying only one group matters tends to read as supremacist.

I agree wholeheartedly. Had the messages in question said "Only black lives matter," I would support crossing them out.

But I don't understand how crossing out "Black lives matter" is supposed to be interpreted as "Yes, and other lives matter too" instead of the straightforward "No, black lives don't matter."