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Re:The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem by rhizome on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @01:55PM (#14754813)
YouTube would rather you fall into a trance of continuing your recent viewing habits rather than providing a personalized library. It just makes better business sense.
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Re:The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem by icebraining on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @03:22PM (#14755718)
Why does it make better business sense?
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Re:The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem by quadrangle on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @03:58PM (#14756073)
Because they aren't trying to help you enjoy videos over the long-term, they're trying to keep you from going over to Facebook where their addictive algorithm will take over and reduce your likelihood of returning to YouTube!

It's a classic race-to-the-bottom. If YouTube lets Facebook keep you addicted, you won't get to the long-term.

http://timewellspent.io/ is good for perspective

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Re:The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem by icebraining on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @05:53PM (#14757026)
Yes, but that has an unspoken assumption that recent habits are more additive than longer term ones. I find that suspect; after all, you've already shown that you'll go back again and again to these kinds of videos, whereas you might spend a couple of hours watching a bunch of videos of a kind that you'll never be interested in again.

Personally, I find YouTube terrible at keeping me engaged. Even when I want to keep watching videos, their sidebar fails to show me anything I want to click on at least 1/3 of the times.

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Re:The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem by rhizome on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @07:02PM (#14757427)
Yes, but that has an unspoken assumption that recent habits are more additive than longer term ones

This is too fine a point. A user will "select" a default choice by doing nothing, and it's in YT's interests to provide default choices that reward the company. This has been researched for decades and is supported by, among other things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo_bias

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Re:The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem by quadrangle on Thursday July 13, 2017 @09:19PM (#14766734)
You could be exceptional or the algorithms might just be shitty at their intended purpose. Lots of possibilities.
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Re:The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem by marksc on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @04:06PM (#14756155)
It probably massively increases average time on site and average videos viewed, and thus ad revenue.
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Re:The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem by rhizome on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @05:05PM (#14756671)
Because if e.g. you watch a Tool video, the ad rates for you watching a Korn video after that are higher than if you watch a Zeni Geva one. Alternatively, Kesha > Lady Gaga vs. Kesha > Joni James. Unscientific, but it comports with conventional wisdom with regard to fiduciary duties to stockholders.
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Re:The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem by icebraining on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @05:57PM (#14757042)
Because if e.g. you watch a Tool video, the ad rates for you watching a Korn video after that are higher than if you watch a Zeni Geva one

But why? If I've watched hundreds of Zeni Geva videos over the years, but it's my fifth Tool video, why would I be more likely to click on a ad on a Korn video?

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Re:The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem by rhizome on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @06:54PM (#14757381)
It's not that they think you'll be more likely, it's that they rather you did, so the suggestion emerges. Recommendation engines are a funnel for revenue.
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Re:The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem by hyperdunc on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @11:12PM (#14758457)
What doesn't make good business sense is filling my feed with videos I've already seen!
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