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Re:Apple and Google embody two alternative models of capitalism by VikingCoder on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @12:29PM (#14745514)
> Almost every member of "labor" has some form of pension, 401(k), IRA, or personal stock holding

Citation needed. I believe "almost every" is pure hyperbole.

A quick search found a poll indicating 52% of Americans own stock.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/190883/half-americans-own-stocks-...

If you have better information, I'd like to see it, please.

Re:Apple and Google embody two alternative models of capitalism by eldavido on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @12:38PM (#14745604)
Without a citation, that seems right, in the narrowest sense of "owning single shares in a company".

Keep in mind that "owning stock" isn't well-defined though, that could mean (a) own individual shares (narrowest), (b) owns shares or ETFs (broader), (c) owns mutual funds.

But that still doesn't address my point. It's a lot bigger when both private sector, and public, pensions are included.

This issue is near and dear to my heart because I grew up in Illinois (now living in California) and am watching the budget battle unfold there. They have a huge pension funding gap, and the returns of the stock market are going to have a very direct, real effect on how much tax the state has to collect to fund the pensions.

Re:Apple and Google embody two alternative models of capitalism by arcbyte on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @01:15PM (#14745956)
Born, raised, and living in Illinois and I'm seriously looking at leaving the land of Lincoln. Chicago is ruining this state.
Re:Apple and Google embody two alternative models of capitalism by tomjakubowski on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @01:21PM (#14746014)
I was born and raised in Illinois too, but live in California now. Mind explaining how the third-largest metro economy in the country is ruining our state?
Re:Apple and Google embody two alternative models of capitalism by Tettrox on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @01:42PM (#14746189)
How about having a massive murder rate? Having a great train system is great, but it's not exactly something to brag about and definitely something someone is going to overlook the murder rate for.
Re:Apple and Google embody two alternative models of capitalism by throwaway91111 on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @09:20PM (#14749445)
How is the murder rate in chicago ruining the state?
Re:Apple and Google embody two alternative models of capitalism by vadym909 on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @12:39PM (#14745621)
and if you look at half the workforce at these companies,Labor- the ones not making 6 figures- like couriers, personal shoppers, cafeteria workers, content reviewers, helpdesk, customer support, admins, security- they are contractors that don't get 401k, IRA and live hand-to-mouth and always precariously poised to be fired anyday. They can't afford, can't buy and never benefit from stock price increases.