Linus: “I no longer feel like I can trust ‘init’ to do the sane thing”

Re:Linus: “I no longer feel like I can trust ‘init’ to do th... by JdeBP on Monday July 10, 2017 @05:44AM (#14734552)

I suspect that you are not aware of what actually did exist previously. Mewburn rc had short pretty much declarative service definition files. Upstart had declarative configuration too, as did InitNG. Launchd, Upstart, and Solaris SMF had the launchctl/initctl/svcadm concept. daemontools/runit/perp/s6 had universal logging of standard output/error. And so forth.

* http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/09/05/0/

* http://jdebp.eu./FGA/run-scripts-and-service-units-side-by-s...

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Re:Linus: “I no longer feel like I can trust ‘init’ to do th... by dijit on Monday July 10, 2017 @09:45AM (#14735805)

SMF without XML is gods init system.

It's so cleanly engineered, just like ZFS.. makes me sad that solaris died a death.

(Their package management was crap though tbh)

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Re:Linus: “I no longer feel like I can trust ‘init’ to do th... by JdeBP on Monday July 10, 2017 @09:58AM (#14735932)

Well illumos exists and people can always pick up SystemXVI and work on it.

* https://github.com/ServiceManager/ServiceManager/ (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10212770)

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Re:Linus: “I no longer feel like I can trust ‘init’ to do th... by dijit on Monday July 10, 2017 @11:56AM (#14737069)

I'm a sysadmin, I'm at the mercy of OS developers as to what I run on prod, and Solaris/IllumOS does not have the mindshare linux does.

I am certain that right now the choice of POSIX OS's at large companies such as mine is Debian or RHEL/CentOS. Smaller companies get away with ubuntu.

But nobody is making new infrastructure with IllumOS/Solaris. The most people will deviate is probably Free/OpenBSD.

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